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Thursday:
Green Bay at Detroit
Oakland at Dallas
Pittsburgh at Baltimore
Sunday:
Jacksonville at Cleveland
Tennessee at Indianapolis
Chicago at Minnesota
Miami at NY Jets
Arizona at Philadelphia
Tampa Bay at Carolina
New England at Houston
Atlanta at Buffalo
St. Louis at San Francisco
Denver at Kansas City
Cincinnati at San Diego
NY Giants at Washington
Monday:
New Orleans at Seattle
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Thursday:
Green Bay at Detroit
Oakland at Dallas
Pittsburgh at Baltimore
Sunday:
Jacksonville at Cleveland
Tennessee at Indianapolis
Chicago at Minnesota
Miami at NY Jets
Arizona at Philadelphia
Tampa Bay at Carolina
New England at Houston
Atlanta at Buffalo
St. Louis at San Francisco
Denver at Kansas City
Cincinnati at San Diego
NY Giants at Washington
Monday:
New Orleans at Seattle
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Thursday:
Green Bay @ Detroit
Oakland @ Dallas
Pittsburgh @ Baltimore
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Thursday:
Green Bay at Detroit
Oakland at Dallas
Pittsburgh at Baltimore
Sunday:
Jacksonville at Cleveland
Tennessee at Indianapolis
Chicago at Minnesota
Miami at NY Jets
Arizona at Philadelphia
Tampa Bay at Carolina
New England at Houston
Atlanta at Buffalo
St. Louis at San Francisco
Denver at Kansas City
Cincinnati at San Diego
NY Giants at Washington
Monday:
New Orleans at Seattle
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bookworm wrote:But, again it is scored the same way for everyone regardless of team picked so it would have no effect. Everyone would get the half point, so what is the purpose?

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Unless you’re referring to only your proposal where a winner is forced. But that’s not going to happen. There is no winning team in a tie, I’m not going to arbitrarily declare one just for tally purposes when there’s not a need to.
Let me show you what I mean. This would be my pick:

Green Bay at Detroit - TIE

And then if the game ends in a tie, I get a point and the players who picked either team to win would get nothing. Do you agree?
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But who would do that because ties are so rare? You would almost be guaranteeing a missed point.
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American Eagle wrote:And then if the game ends in a tie, I get a point and the players who picked either team to win would get nothing. Do you agree?
I do agree, and from now on if someone wanted to take the huge risk of doing that then I will indeed score it if correct. But for those who picked either team, it still gets dropped either way, so it still doesn’t matter there.

-- 29 Nov 2013 11:25 am --

Cumulative Pool standings:

bookworm - 104
Eugene the second - 100
Knight Fisher - 100
The Top Crusader - 100
American Eagle - 96
godisawesomeness99 - 92
Skylerbuck - 67
Jehoshaphat - 42
EK - 12

-- 29 Nov 2013 11:25 am --

Week 13:

Thursday:
Green Bay @ Detroit
Oakland @ Dallas
Pittsburgh @ Baltimore

Sunday:
Tennessee @ Indianapolis
Arizona @ Philadelphia
Miami @ New York Jets

Chicago @ Minnesota
Tampa Bay @ Carolina
Jacksonville @ Cleveland
Denver @ Kansas City
Atlanta @ Buffalo
St. Louis @ San Francisco
New England @ Houston

Cincinnati @ San Diego
New York Giants @ Washington
Monday:
New Orleans @ Seattle

Record: 10-6
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Indianapolis
Arizona
Miami
Minnesota
Carolina
Cleveland
Kansas City
Buffalo
San fransisco
New England
Cincinnati
New York giants
Seattle
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NY Giants

New Orleans
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This Rule Rebuke courtesy of league attempts to introduce contextless catchalls in the name of player safety when such a thing is simply not possible.

We know that these days if the helmet of the ball carrier comes off at any time during the play, the play is immediately dead where it occurred. (Unless he removed it himself, which is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.) I completely understand and agree with the idea behind the rule, but I can’t disagree more with the rule itself. The problem is that all plays are not equal. The purpose of the rule is so the guy isn’t running around without a helmet and prone to serious injury if tackled. That’s good. But the way to prevent that is not to say that every play, no matter the circumstances, is instantly over.

A perfect example of why this doesn’t work was showcased in the Thanksgiving Steelers/Ravens game. The Steelers were at the goal line and decided to try to punch the ball in. Their runner did make it, but his helmet flew off at the end of the play prompting a review. Sure enough, the helmet was off his head just before the ball crossed the end zone. By rule, the play is over at the half yard line, and it was correctly called as such.

Clearly, while this is proper enforcement of the letter of the rule, it is completely against the spirit of the rule. The player was already hit and going down when his helmet came off. There was absolutely nothing to be accomplished by backing him up six inches and calling it dead there. The point of the rule is to prevent the player from attempting to continue advancing the ball and risk getting hit. That doesn’t apply here at all! He was already hit, the play was already going to be dead, the only thing this affected was the end location of the football. He was already going to be down, no one was going to be hitting him further, the rule was absolutely useless in this situation.

He was falling across the goal line. This play is over two different ways. First, because it’s a touchdown! As soon as the ball crosses the plane the play is dead. Second, because even if he didn’t cross the line, he was down! Someone hitting him would be discouraged without the helmet rule because it would be a late hit penalty.

The intent of the rule is right, but saying that to enforce that intent means we drop common sense is ridiculous. This isn’t an either/or situation. You can protect the player and not end plays unnecessarily. It’s simple. If a helmet comes off the player can’t actively continue the play, but if he is already in the process of falling forward or going down, let play continue to the ground. Calling a play that would already be over a second later anyway dead a second sooner adds no extra protection, it’s just dumb. And in cases like the game in question, it actually punishes the player it’s supposed to protect.
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I never considered what would happen if the helmet pops off at the goalline, so I don't blame the rulemakers for that oversight. Their intention was to protect players. Hopefully it gets amended in the offseason.

Week 14
Thursday:
Houston at Jacksonville
Sunday:
Detroit at Philadelphia
Indianapolis at Cincinnati
Atlanta at Green Bay
Cleveland at New England
Oakland at NY Jets
Miami at Pittsburgh
Buffalo at Tampa Bay
Kansas City at Washington
Minnesota at Baltimore
Tennessee at Denver
St. Louis at Arizona
NY Giants at San Diego
Seattle at San Francisco
Carolina at New Orleans
Monday:
Dallas at Chicago
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Cumulative Pool standings:

bookworm - 114
Eugene the second - 111
The Top Crusader - 111
Knight Fisher - 110
American Eagle - 108
godisawesomeness99 - 102
Skylerbuck - 68
Jehoshaphat - 44
EK - 12

-- 04 Dec 2013 01:20 pm --

Week 14:

Thursday:
Houston @ Jacksonville
Sunday:
Indianapolis @ Cincinnati
Cleveland @ New England
Oakland @ New York Jets
Carolina @ New Orleans
Detroit @ Philadelphia
Miami @ Pittsburgh
Buffalo @ Tampa Bay
Kansas City @ Washington
Minnesota @ Baltimore
Tennessee @ Denver
St. Louis @ Arizona
New York Giants @ San Diego
Seattle @ San Francisco
Atlanta @ Green Bay
Monday:
Dallas @ Chicago
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Thursday:
Houston at Jacksonville
Sunday:
Detroit at Philadelphia
Indianapolis at Cincinnati
Atlanta at Green Bay
Cleveland at New England
Oakland at NY Jets
Miami at Pittsburgh
Buffalo at Tampa Bay
Kansas City at Washington
Minnesota at Baltimore
Tennessee at Denver
St. Louis at Arizona
NY Giants at San Diego
Seattle at San Francisco
Carolina at New Orleans
Monday:
Dallas at Chicago
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Jacksonville for 3 in a row!
In other words I think Jacksonville will win
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Who are we sending money to?

Thursday:
Houston at Jacksonville
Sunday:
Detroit at Philadelphia
Indianapolis at Cincinnati
Atlanta at Green Bay
Cleveland at New England
Oakland at NY Jets
Miami at Pittsburgh
Buffalo at Tampa Bay
Kansas City at Washington
Minnesota at Baltimore
Tennessee at Denver
St. Louis at Arizona
NY Giants at San Diego
Seattle at San Francisco
Carolina at New Orleans
Monday:
Dallas at Chicago
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Jacksonville is my choice


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I haven't sent money to anyone. When informed I'll send money for all weeks I've played.
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I've sent money to Ryder for like the last 10 weeks. I wonder if I'll ever get that money back. :-k

At this point, I care more about the cumulative pool than the weekly.
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E II wrote:I haven't sent money to anyone. When informed I'll send money for all weeks I've played.
FYI, if you’re not paying you’re not playing. Ryder will likely not count your picks for those weeks when he returns to score. You need to send in your money each week.
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I basicly only care about cum though and he counted me in weeks I didn't catch.

-- Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:14 am --

Just take all home teams again need to hurry to get in time.

-- Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:06 pm --

Note is was hearing a game on radio and seeing one on TV they had not yet kicked off. I would like to say Seattle will win as well.
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