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I voted for:

Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine
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No votes
Donald Trump and Mike Pence
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56%
Gary Johnson Bill Weld
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11%
Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka
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No votes
Evan McMullin and Nathan Johnson
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22%
Darrell Castle and Scott Bradley
2
11%
Write in or other third party
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No votes
 
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So, confirmation hearings have begun on Trump's cabinet picks. Anyone have any thoughts? Hopes for which will pass and which will be denied?

The big one for me is Rex Tillerson. I sincerely hope the Senate has the sense to reject the idea of this guy being our Secretary of State. Not only is he unqualified, but he's also very pro-Russia (he even received the Russian 'Order of Friendship' from Putin himself), which is deeply concerning to me.
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Same here Woody. I don't like that idea either.

So my dad was talking about the idea of Ted Cruz as Trumps pick to takes Justice Scalia's place. I don't like the idea because he and Trump do not get along very well at all. I think that one might go against the other just to spite them. Also, he does not seem to have much bad-bone. We need someone who can say something without worrying about what other people think. And I do not mean that they should just say whatever they think of WHEN they think of it but, that they should not always care what the critics think. Anyway, that just what I think!
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Since when are presidents and Supreme Court justices suppose to get along?
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Am I the only one who looked in the February 2013 issue of National Review, Breitbart, etc., and found absolutely no calls to eliminate Fmr. President Obama?

OK, just checking.
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Okay, James Comey announces he's beefing up the investigation into ties with Russia. Trump fires him. He fires the head of the FBI. He initially says it has nothing to do with the investigation, then he admits to Lester Holt that it does. Does this look bad to anybody? You guys are still sticking by your boy? This is still the man you want to get behind? Well, okay then.
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Ah, I miss this topic. It's from a time when we all thought Trump would lose embarrassingly and everything would be okay...

But to PF, yes, Comey's firing is very suspicious. Even more concerning is this story that just broke. Apparently, Trump shared highly classified information with the Russians that could jeopardize a key source of intelligence on the Islamic State. This is just the first four months, folks. If Congress doesn't get a clue and impeach this guy, I'll be very disappointed.
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The Doctor wrote:Ah, I miss this topic. It's from a time when we all thought Trump would lose embarrassingly and everything would be okay...

But to PF, yes, Comey's firing is very suspicious. Even more concerning is this story that just broke. Apparently, Trump shared highly classified information with the Russians that could jeopardize a key source of intelligence on the Islamic State. This is just the first four months, folks. If Congress doesn't get a clue and impeach this guy, I'll be very disappointed.
I'm not familiar with this story specifically, but isn't it great that even if you had 100% proof for 20 impeachable offenses that his supporters would just claim it was fake news and you're a liberal snowflake (regardless of your political ideology--you might just not want an incompetent President but otherwise are conservative)?
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The only thing I really watch on YouTube lately are the daily clips from Late Night hosts reporting on Trump shenanigans, and it's some of the greatest entertainment ever. I'm personally in no hurry to watch this end. \:D/

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The Doctor wrote:Ah, I miss this topic. It's from a time when we all thought Trump would lose embarrassingly and everything would be okay...

But to PF, yes, Comey's firing is very suspicious. Even more concerning is this story that just broke. Apparently, Trump shared highly classified information with the Russians that could jeopardize a key source of intelligence on the Islamic State. This is just the first four months, folks. If Congress doesn't get a clue and impeach this guy, I'll be very disappointed.
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Dredge wrote:Washington Compost
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The Washington Post isn't perfect, but it's certainly more reliable than, as a totally random example, Google Docs originating on 4chan.

Also, the Washington Post was the first news source to report on this, but it's now been picked up by more of the media, including CNN and the New York Times. All of this is really more of a question of which government officials we believe, rather than individual news sources.
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Tea Ess wrote:Also, the *Washington Compost was the first news source to report on this, but it's now been picked up by more of the media, including *Fake News Network and the *Failing New York Times.
fix'd.

Absolute truth just got really simple, folks.
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The Doctor wrote:Ah, I miss this topic. It's from a time when we all thought Trump would lose embarrassingly and everything would be okay...
Happy time. We were innocent. Orange was still pretty, meeting with foreign leaders didn't mean humiliation, tick tacks were just candy, and our country had dignity.
The Doctor wrote:Even more concerning is this story that just broke.
Indeedy. That's the world we live in now. As soon as you, "Well, this is unfortunate" the other fella says, "Oh, so you haven't heard. Here's what we're all worried about now." This is very sad to me. Islamic terrorism is a subject very close to my heart and the idea of empowering them, through gordforsaken Russia of all countries, is disheartening.
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Jog my memory... What crimes did the President commit? He has the authority to declassify anything he wants, and impeachment is actually charging someone with a crime.

I think it's only appropriate to treat liberal media as liars. After all, news is all about politics now.

-- Thu May 18, 2017 11:08 am --

If the media had not spent decades spewing spin we would not be here right now.
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