US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

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I voted for:

Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine
0
No votes
Donald Trump and Mike Pence
10
56%
Gary Johnson Bill Weld
2
11%
Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka
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No votes
Evan McMullin and Nathan Johnson
4
22%
Darrell Castle and Scott Bradley
2
11%
Write in or other third party
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 18

US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Tea Ess » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:31 pm

We don't have a general, non-debate thread for the election so I'm making this one in hopes we'll get at least some discussion. We already have a topic specifically for Nate Silver's forecast here, but I'm including some of the election predictions anyway.

Nate Silver's 538 model gives Hillary Clinton a 71.4% chance of winning the election, with an expected amount of 302.2 electoral votes, leaving Trump 235. The popular vote is expected to be split 48.5% to 44.9%, and Gary Johnson has a shot at getting the Libertarian party more recognition with his expected 5%.

270 to Win is another forecast that allows the user to customize an electoral map based on whether they think states will go red or blue. The Sabato Crystal Ball option groups states by competitiveness, with a possible result of Clinton winning 322 votes and Trump 216.

This evaluation of betting markets gives Hillary an 83% chance of winning, with significantly higher chances in Florida, North Carolina, and Nevada than Nate Silver predicts.

The election is far from certain, however, as the national polls are within the margin of error, and several key states are in very close competition.

Post your thoughts and comments below. \:D/
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Penguin » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:39 pm

Everyone on the chat already knows my thoughts on the election, but for those who don't go on the chat I voted for Trump! #MAGA :D
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Tea Ess » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:45 pm

I personally voted for Gary Johnson in hopes that the Libertarian party gets above 5% of the popular vote. My home state of Indiana is very solidly red, so I didn't feel as strong of an obligation to vote for Clinton.
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Bob » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:41 pm

I voted for Evan McMullin. I wasn't going to vote for one of the two major candidates. I considered voting for Johnson, but couldn't bring myself to do it.

If everyone who votes here leaves a post stating their home state, I can make an election map afterwards showing how it would have gone if only ToO votes counted.
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Kathy0 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:45 pm

I cant vote but almost everyone knows I would vote for Donald Trump. :pray: :pray: :pray: If Hillary wins I don't know what I will do ](*,) :- Well....I will just be moooooovin along! :p
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Tea Ess » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:45 pm

That would be awesome, Bob! I can guess already. \:D/
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby The Doctor » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:46 pm

I can't vote, unfortunately, as I'm still two months from being 18.

If I could vote, however, I would most certainly be voting for Evan McMullin. As a conservative living in solidly blue California, there's absolutely no way a vote for Trump would influence anything, even if I could persuade myself to support him. Thus, I would want to cast a protest vote for someone I feel more accurately represents me. Here's hoping for a legitimization of third party and independent candidates.
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Tea Ess » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:58 pm

Woody wrote:If I could vote, however, I would most certainly be voting for Evan McMullin. As a conservative living in solidly blue California, there's absolutely no way a vote for Trump would influence anything, even if I could persuade myself to support him. Thus, I would want to cast a protest vote for someone I feel more accurately represents me. Here's hoping for a legitimization of third party and independent candidates.

Hear, hear! \:D/

Clinton is behind in Virginia right now, which is incredibly concerning, but otherwise she's winning where she needs to be. Hopefully they just haven't gotten to the strongest Democratic areas in VA yet.
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby snubs » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:11 pm

Yes, I voted Trump, because there is no way I was going with Hillary. And though I think Trump is a terrible politician, I firmly believe he is the lesser of two evils.

I debated long and hard about voting Libertarian (up until last night!), but didn't because voting third party in my state poses a bigger risk of Hillary winning it (which unfortunately looks like she will). That said, I'm with Tea Ess, in hoping that Gary Johnson can secure at least 5% of the vote.
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Tea Ess » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:18 pm

Yeah, I'm definitely hoping for strong support for Johnson. It could be quite close to 5%, so let's hope it's over.

Clinton might take Virginia now, but will probably lose North Carolina and Florida. She needs to get Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan.

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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Mariogeek » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:27 pm

I can't vote yet, but I would have voted for Trump because I can't stand Hillary. Definitely the lesser of two evils. I know a ton of people who said they weren't going to vote, but then they ended up voting for Trump just because he's not Hillary. I live in Oregon so we get the awesome ballots in the mail and we don't have to stand in line for anything. Even though it is ALWAYS democratic.
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby snubs » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:47 pm

Tea Ess wrote:I should have just gone to bed early because this is stressing me out way too much. =/
You are right, this is very stressful. =| And I am so tired. :boohoo:
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Postby Mariogeek » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:07 pm

I think the problem I have with the independent parties is that they never win- they just pull away votes from the Republican party.
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Tea Ess » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:20 pm

Mariogeek wrote:I think the problem I have with the independent parties is that they never win- they just pull away votes from the Republican party.

It goes the other way too, especially for the Green Party. Really the problem is having a political system that forces people to choose between two parties.

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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby bookworm » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:55 am

So that just happened. I think.
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Bob » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:19 am

This is the most stunning outcome since '48, and possibly in American history.
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Arkán Dreamwalker » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:47 am

So everything is not perfectly set in stone yet, but it would seem that ignorant evil has beaten pragmatic evil. Best of the reasonably possible outcomes.
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Postby Connie G. » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:48 am

That's a nice way to put it :yes:
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Re: US Election 2016 General Discussion Topic

Postby Arkán Dreamwalker » Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:01 am

It took a while, but I came to have a very good understanding of this election. One could also word it inefficient evil vs efficient evil.
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Postby GJ » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:09 am

Arkán Dreamwalker wrote:It took a while, but I came to have a very good understanding of this election. One could also word it inefficient evil vs efficient evil.

That's an interesting, yet accurate way of describing the situation. :)
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