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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:32 pm 
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It is pretty obvious that our default board style is really OLD and very outdated. I've been wanting to give it a face-lift for quite some time now, and I figured this might be the perfect time to get the wheels turning in giving it an update. (When I say 'update' I do not mean we'll be changing the existing style, but only using it as a base to create a new one. We would never want to do away with something that is so much a part of the ToO. Plus, we would like it to still be available for those who prefer using it. =] )

This is NOT a set-in-stone deal. It will all depend on if we get the okay (from you, and the higher ups) to do it, AND if we can get the people needed to actually make it happen. This project may even go beyond our term as well. That said, we cannot promise anything, however, we are very interested in making this a reality.

My idea was to truly make this a Town project. This is your board, and you, the people who make this place, should be involved in every part of something that will represent the ToO as a whole. I want to involve the whole ToO community, by allowing anyone and everyone to offer their ideas, opinions and abilities. So we'll be encouraging any comments and/or concept ideas you have to offer. =]

Before creating this thread I wanted to run it by Shadowpaw first (don't wanna get ahead of ourselves, you know). His response:
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I'd be totally fine with that, snubs!
So everything is a go with him. \:D/ We now just need your opinions and thoughts on the whole topic. Below are some questions that we'd like your input on. They can be answered now or later...or none at all, however we encourage that you please, at least, answer the first question.

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- Do you think we need/should have a new default board style? (vote in the poll and elaborate your answer below.)

- What do you NOT like about the current default style?
- What DO you like about the current default style?
- What changes in the style would you like to see (if any)?
- Should we keep any of the original elements of the current default style? If so, what elements?
- How do you imagine the face of the ToO should look?
----What do you think the colors, graphics, etc should be?
- What should our banner/header look like/include? (concept art is welcome)


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Also, if you have any experience with this sort of thing (and would like to volunteer), we'd like to know about it! Your experience and ability might be useful for this project. :)

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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:39 pm 
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Ummm well, I just wanna see some thing new for my default setting I guess.... sorta... I'm being real helpful to your cause right? ;)

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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:42 pm 
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:05 pm 
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Yes. I believe that this theme is outdated, and that sends a bad message across to potential users who are expecting a more up to date design.

-- Mon May 11, 2015 7:09 pm --

- Do you think we need/should have a new default board style? (vote in the poll and elaborate your answer below.)

- What do you NOT like about the current default style? (It looks outdated, from the header image, to the gradients, to the icons).
- What DO you like about the current default style? (I am rather fond of the general color scheme, just not the gradients).
- What changes in the style would you like to see (if any)? (Scrap the header, and replace it. Update the icons. Tweak the gradients a bit).
- Should we keep any of the original elements of the current default style? If so, what elements? (As previously stated, I think we should keep the general colors style)
- How do you imagine the face of the ToO should look? (I believe that it should be an up-to-date design, preferably optimized for mobile devices, with an overall polished look and feel).
----What do you think the colors, graphics, etc should be? (already answered in questions 2 and 3).
- What should our banner/header look like/include? (concept art is welcome) (I have no problem with keeping it the way it is, with maybe an updated AIO logo and character images).

-- Mon May 11, 2015 7:10 pm --

Oh, and I would like to volunteer for programming the new style, since I have experience with programming.

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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:59 pm 
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- Do you think we need/should have a new default board style? Yes

- What do you NOT like about the current default style? I agree that it does look outdated. The imageset(especially the header and forum status images) should be updated, and a new color scheme may be in order(orange and purple do NOT go well together.) Also, it's too boxy. Some rounded corners would be nice.
- What DO you like about the current default style? Nothing in particular. Except that it uses the pre-relaunch character art. I like the old ones much better. :yes:
- What changes in the style would you like to see (if any)? Listed in the second question.
- Should we keep any of the original elements of the current default style? If so, what elements? Old character art, like I said.
- How do you imagine the face of the ToO should look? Modern, well designed, with mobile optimization.
----What do you think the colors, graphics, etc should be? I think we ought to use the AIO logo color scheme(yellowish/gold, red, and white)
- What should our banner/header look like/include? Updated logo, remove unnecessary links like ToO TV, and make the links like the arcade less prominent.


Also, I offer my humble services in the coding area. I took a college course in HTML and CSS last year, and I know some basic PHP. I've also worked a lot with phpBB, so I should be of some use to you. \:D/ I also have some experience with graphics, but I have a feeling snubs has that area covered. ;)

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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:32 pm 
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(These answers reflect my personally opinions and to not necessarily reflect the opinions of the admin team.)

- Do you think we need/should have a new default board style? (vote in the poll and elaborate your answer below.)
Yes, because the current one is kind of ugly, and looks dated. It also over emphasizes the AiO aspect of the ToO. While I definitely want to keep AiO part of the ToO theme, I would like it if the theme could reflect that the ToO is more than just a fansite.

- What do you NOT like about the current default style?
I don't really like the colour scheme, the Jpeg artifacts in the header, and the extremely large birthday announcement.

- What DO you like about the current default style?
I like the compactness, the large amounts of little links make most places on the ToO only a few clicks away.

- What changes in the style would you like to see (if any)?
I would like a new header image, and maybe a new colour scheme.

- Should we keep any of the original elements of the current default style? If so, what elements?
I really like the compactness and lack of nested menus. Now lack of nested menus, while nice for usability, do look ugly often. Maybe we should keep them out of the public face for the forum.

----What do you think the colors, graphics, etc should be?
Maybe while, black, blue, and brown. Maybe the art should be small town themed plus one or two AiO images?

I know HTML and CSS (no formal education but self-taught), but have no experience with PHP. My only knowledge of it come from reading its XinY page. I do have experience with FTP be though. However, it looks like other people here have more experience and more relevant experience.


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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:25 am 
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If the default style is changed, NewToO will still be an option for those who wish to keep it as their personal theme, yes?

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 3:43 am 
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- Do you think we need/should have a new default board style? (vote in the poll and elaborate your answer below.)
YES

- What do you NOT like about the current default style?
It looks like it was made in the 90's. Pixelated low resolution images, outdated style and layout, soon the Skype buttons will not work (check your email), and an overall bland feel. I would use the other ones, but all the good ones have leafs flying everywhere...

- What DO you like about the current default style?
It has nostalgia values, and not too many bugs.

- What changes in the style would you like to see (if any)?
Better graphics, new smooth layout, nice buttons instead of simple purple links, more inviting feel. Kill the dull simple gradient...

- Should we keep any of the original elements of the current default style? If so, what elements?
The lack of bugs and ads.

- How do you imagine the face of the ToO should look?
Like a warm, friendly, and inviting town.

-What do you think the colors, graphics, etc should be?
We need our own logo. Some nice rich inviting colors. Maybe make it feel like an actual town... Does anyone know how to let users set a custom color scheme for themselfs? I like the idea of greens, blues, violets, and browns. However, Snubs would no doubt rather have pinks, purples, and oranges! If everyone could chose their own colors, no one would be sad.

- What should our banner/header look like/include? (concept art is welcome)
It needs to be a custom logo. A trade mark, minute the actual copyright. (unless catspaw wants to bother with that process of course) I rather like the idea of it looking like a part of a town, depending on where in the site you are. I will work on some concept art if I ever catch up with the writing work I have been assigned.

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:06 am 
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If the default style is changed, NewToO will still be an option for those who wish to keep it as their personal theme, yes?
Yes. :yes: We wouldn't want to take away something that has been a part of the ToO for so long, and something that a good number of ToO'ers like and have a preference to. So, those who wish to keep using the original style can do so. :)

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However, Snubs would no doubt rather have pinks, purples, and oranges!
Hardly. :noway: I don't even know where you get that idea. I mean, PINK. yeah, right.

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- Do you think we need/should have a new default board style?
Yes. It is outdated and could use the latest PHPBB update. I also find it particularly unappealing.

- What do you NOT like about the current default style?
The header (it's very low quality and just... eh). I also don't like the layout, when you view a member's profile it is especially atrocious. It's like all split up and segmented and just weird.. there is also too much white.

- What DO you like about the current default style?
Hm.. I don't really like anything about it.

- What changes in the style would you like to see (if any)?
Just a cleaner/smoother overall look that is less confusing to look at.

- Should we keep any of the original elements of the current default style? If so, what elements?
Possibly something slightly similar to the original header. Maybe. And definitely keep it on the AIO side of things while also reflecting it is more than just AIO.

- How do you imagine the face of the ToO should look?
Clean and aesthetically appealing. Something AIO related but also somehow incorporate a town feeling.

- What do you think the colors, graphics, etc should be?
I am unsure of colors at this point... but something that isn't white (totally).. but also something that isn't too dark.

- What should our banner/header look like/include?
This, I am still unsure about as well. But I was thinking that we should include the chat link and make it more prominent on the header.

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:30 am 
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Too many questions to answer! Dx I just think the current default looks old. =p

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:38 am 
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I had written everything out but then somehow I logged out so I'm just gonna say: Update EVERYTHING!!! ;) Have fun with that.

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:40 am 
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@Sameria_ZX: Aw, noooo. xD That's okay though.

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No worries. :p Everyone can feel free to answer some or none. I just wanted to give people the option of giving their thoughts and ideas. :yes:

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:23 pm 
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If you bring the default to the current phpbb version you have to do all of the styles since they are created differently and the 2 won't be compatible

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 2:01 pm 
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If you bring the default to the current phpbb version you have to do all of the styles since they are created differently and the 2 won't be compatible
Yes, Bren, that is very true. And it's something that should to be done regardless of a new default. :yes:

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 5:20 pm 
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This is a great idea! And one I've been thinking about recently, oddly enough. :-k

I like the current style, but mostly because it's familiar and feels like home. And in my opinion, the orange and purple is awesome. :- But I really want to change it up! (Especially for mobile friendliness.) Of course keeping this style around as a user option would be fantastic too (and completely possible, with some tweaking).

Anyway, snubs asked me to be involved with this since I've had a fair amount of experience with both web design/development and with phpBB. Maybe we should start a development faction for everyone who would like to contribute to this? :-s

Regardless, count me in! \:D/

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:30 pm 
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:34 pm 
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My vote is yes, it's very old and outdated, when I first joined this place, it looked like it was inactive, because the board style hadn't been updated. However I completely sympathize with those who want to keep the old board style, and I think the "classic style" could perhaps be kept as an option for those who don't want it to leave?

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:48 pm 
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For poetry's sake, it ought to be renamed "oldToO". :p

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:33 pm 
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I would support changing its name to "newToO (classic theme)" because then we keep the historical name but still mark it as the traditional theme.


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Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:59 am 
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Eugene wrote:
Anyway, snubs asked me to be involved with this since I've had a fair amount of experience with both web design/development and with phpBB. Maybe we should start a development faction for everyone who would like to contribute to this?


Count me in! I will join, so long as I get payed of course... =;

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