What's acceptable on Sunday?

[odysseyfan1]

Do you believe in shopping/going out to restaraunts on Sunday? The Bible says "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy," so we refrain from doing anything like that on Sunday.

[American Eagle]

Heh, note when it says "Sabbath", it is not talking about Sunday. Their is no proof anywhere that the Sabbath "moved" to Sunday. It was, and always be, Saturday for the Jews. If modern-day Christians want to observe it (which we are not commanded to do, mind you), that's your choice. I, however, work every Sunday night.

We don't go out to eat very often on Sundays.

[odysseyfan1]

Heh, note when it says "Sabbath", it is not talking about Sunday. Their is no proof anywhere that the Sabbath "moved" to Sunday. It was, and always be, Saturday for the Jews. If modern-day Christians want to observe it (which we are not commanded to do, mind you), that's your choice. I, however, work every Sunday night.

We don't go out to eat very often on Sundays.

Do you observe the Sabbath on Sunday? (I mean Saturday?)

[Dr. Watson]

And why do we need to observe the Sabbath?

[odysseyfan1]

And why do we need to observe the Sabbath?

Um, because it's in the Ten Commandments.

[Dr. Watson]

Read Colossians, friend:

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

And Romans:

One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

It is interesting that though the Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, it is only commandment never repeated in the New Testament--in fact, as indicated above, it is nullified! Christians are not bound to follow the Sabbath. If you wish to, praise God--follow your conscience. But I do not, as such.

Of course, I recognize the practical benefits of resting one day a week, so practically speaking, I am Sabbatarian, but I do not do so out of conscience.

[odysseyfan1]

Read Colossians, friend:

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

And Romans:

One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

It is interesting that though the Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, it is only commandment never repeated in the New Testament--in fact, as indicated above, it is nullified! Christians are not bound to follow the Sabbath. If you wish to, praise God--follow your conscience. But I do not, as such.

Of course, I recognize the practical benefits of resting one day a week, so practically speaking, I am Sabbatarian, but I do not do so out of conscience.

The KJV (Colossians 2:16) says sabbath days. The word Sabbath in the Old Testament is applied not only to the seventh day, but to all the days of holy rest that were observed by the Hebrews, and chiefly to the beginning and to the close of the great festivals that they had. Festivals that we no longer have to observe. NOT Sunday, as you implied

[jelly]

Ya, you could operate strictly under your interpretation of the Ten Commandments... or you could look at the part where Jesus basically said 'screw it, stop being so legalistic about it'.

It's interesting how you seem to take some parts of the Bible literal to the extreme, and then translate or interpret other parts of the Bible.

[odysseyfan1]

Ya, you could operate strictly under your interpretation of the Ten Commandments... or you could look at the part where Jesus basically said 'screw it, stop being so legalistic about it'.

It's interesting how you seem to take some parts of the Bible literal to the extreme, and then translate or interpret other parts of the Bible.

And which parts do we "translate" and "interpret"? And also where did Jesus say that?

[jelly]

Well, you've literally taken one of the commandments to mean that you can't do anything on Sunday. Then you dismissed the verses Watson put forward, because they were 'outdated'. Why choose to blind yourselves in that way? Jesus had some choice words to say to those religious dudes who were all legalistic about things like the sabbath day.

[odysseyfan1]

Well, you've literally taken one of the commandments to mean that you can't do anything on Sunday. Then you dismissed the verses Watson put forward, because they were 'outdated'. Why choose to blind yourselves in that way? Jesus had some choice words to say to those religious dudes who were all legalistic about things like the sabbath day.

Um, dude, didn't you see my post about that verse? And you can do stuff on Sunday. But when you're going out to eat, somebody has to serve you! If you (and everybody else) weren't there, they wouldn't be working. In essence you're causing them to work. Oh, and I noticed that you didn't my answer my question.

[jelly]

Um, dude, didn't you see my post about that verse?

..this one?

And why do we need to observe the Sabbath?

Um, because it's in the Ten Commandments.

But when you're going out to eat, somebody has to serve you! If you (and everybody else) weren't there, they wouldn't be working. In essence you're causing them to work.

just.. no.. >_>

Oh, and I noticed that you didn't my answer my question.

I'm talking about the times that Jesus literally started cursing out the pharisees for being all legalistic. He intentionality healed people on a sabbath day and even told them to 'pick up their mat and walk home', because He wanted to make a point.

[odysseyfan1]

Um, dude, didn't you see my post about that verse?

..this one?

And why do we need to observe the Sabbath?

Um, because it's in the Ten Commandments.

But when you're going out to eat, somebody has to serve you! If you (and everybody else) weren't there, they wouldn't be working. In essence you're causing them to work.

just.. no.. >_>

Oh, and I noticed that you didn't my answer my question.

I'm talking about the times that Jesus literally started cursing out the pharisees for being all legalistic. He intentionality healed people on a sabbath day and even told them to 'pick up their mat and walk home', because He wanted to make a point.

No, this one:

The KJV (Colossians 2:16) says sabbath days. The word Sabbath in the Old Testament is applied not only to the seventh day, but to all the days of holy rest that were observed by the Hebrews, and chiefly to the beginning and to the close of the great festivals that they had. Festivals that we no longer have to observe. NOT Sunday, as you implied

And healing someone, is a lot different than working and stuff.

And what do you mean by "just...no"?

[jelly]

No, this one:

The KJV (Colossians 2:16) says sabbath days. The word Sabbath in the Old Testament is applied not only to the seventh day, but to all the days of holy rest that were observed by the Hebrews, and chiefly to the beginning and to the close of the great festivals that they had. Festivals that we no longer have to observe. NOT Sunday, as you implied

...so what's the difference between the Sabbath and these other 'holy days' that you've dismissed?

And healing someone, is a lot different than working and stuff.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that he intentionally did it on a sabbath, and told the guy to pick up his mat and walk with it.. knowing that the pharisees would see that and get all mad. He wasn't just saying that it was alright to heal people, he was trying to make a point.

And what do you mean by "just...no"?

Basically that your post was so misguided I didn't even feel that it was worse an opposing argument. >_>

[Dr. Watson]

Read Colossians, friend:

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

And Romans:

One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

It is interesting that though the Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, it is only commandment never repeated in the New Testament--in fact, as indicated above, it is nullified! Christians are not bound to follow the Sabbath. If you wish to, praise God--follow your conscience. But I do not, as such.

Of course, I recognize the practical benefits of resting one day a week, so practically speaking, I am Sabbatarian, but I do not do so out of conscience.

The KJV (Colossians 2:16) says sabbath days. The word Sabbath in the Old Testament is applied not only to the seventh day, but to all the days of holy rest that were observed by the Hebrews, and chiefly to the beginning and to the close of the great festivals that they had. Festivals that we no longer have to observe. NOT Sunday, as you implied

I disagree. To say that the word Sabbath (or Sabbath days--it makes no difference) doesn't really mean the Sabbath is a sidestep. Any Jew seeing that would instantly associate the word with the seventh day of the week. Notice the "frequency" progression that Paul uses:

1) Festivals (periodic holy days that happened once a year)
2) New Moons (monthly)
3) Sabbath(s) (weekly)

I think the weekly Sabbath is what Paul had in mind here. To say that, "Festivals that we no longer have to observe. NOT Sunday, as you implied" is a misreading of the text as Paul includes both festivals AND the Sabbath in things that Christians do not have to observe.

Again I repeat:

One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

If you are fully convinced to esteem Sunday above other days as holy--great! Do so for the Lord. But as the Scripture exhorts, do not bind other Christians consciences in an area where the Bible expressly permits freedom on.

[odysseyfan1]

Read Colossians, friend:

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

And Romans:

One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

It is interesting that though the Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, it is only commandment never repeated in the New Testament--in fact, as indicated above, it is nullified! Christians are not bound to follow the Sabbath. If you wish to, praise God--follow your conscience. But I do not, as such.

Of course, I recognize the practical benefits of resting one day a week, so practically speaking, I am Sabbatarian, but I do not do so out of conscience.

The KJV (Colossians 2:16) says sabbath days. The word Sabbath in the Old Testament is applied not only to the seventh day, but to all the days of holy rest that were observed by the Hebrews, and chiefly to the beginning and to the close of the great festivals that they had. Festivals that we no longer have to observe. NOT Sunday, as you implied

I disagree. To say that the word Sabbath (or Sabbath days--it makes no difference) doesn't really mean the Sabbath is a sidestep. Any Jew seeing that would instantly associate the word with the seventh day of the week. Notice the "frequency" progression that Paul uses:

1) Festivals (periodic holy days that happened once a year)
2) New Moons (monthly)
3) Sabbath(s) (weekly)

I think the weekly Sabbath is what Paul had in mind here. To say that, "Festivals that we no longer have to observe. NOT Sunday, as you implied" is a misreading of the text as Paul includes both festivals AND the Sabbath in things that Christians do not have to observe.

Again I repeat:

One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

If you are fully convinced to esteem Sunday above other days as holy--great! Do so for the Lord. But as the Scripture exhorts, do not bind other Christians consciences in an area where the Bible expressly permits freedom on.

Whoa, slow down! Who's "binding"? I asked what u thught and gave my opinion. Oh, and that plural Sabbath thing, came from John Barnes. :)u

[Steve]

We don't rush around and do a bunch of yard work or anything on Sunday. We still do stuff like eat out or go to the store, or I have friends over or something.

If we were supposed to rest and do nothing on Sunday-You wouldn't go to church.

[Jesus' Princess]

Our church meets on Sunday nights, from 4:00 until everyone leaves, in the mornings, we read the Bible as a family, and then do things like play music, read, play outside, stuff like that, until it's time to get ready for church. At our church, after the services we have a potluck meal and then the children sometimes go outside and play soccer.

[Lee]

I do agree with the statement that Sabbath was originally Saturday. But I do believe that at least one day a week should be spent not buying or selling and taking a rest. So if you believe that's Saturday, fine! But God wants all of us to rest, because he rested.

Our family personally has two services on Sunday (three when we have Youth service) and we all just slow down from normal everyday activities, like buying or selling or hard work.

[Taps]

We don't rush around and do a bunch of yard work or anything on Sunday. We still do stuff like eat out or go to the store, or I have friends over or something.

If we were supposed to rest and do nothing on Sunday-You wouldn't go to church.

Also it can be bad if you take it to literary. I mean to relax and stuff does that mean you have to lay in bed all day or something? just hang around? I believe in getting things done in any day. It is all a matter of preference and what you think is best in your own opinion. I usually take a little time to read my bible like I do every day rest a little then just do whatever I want ( not like anything bad but like reading watching something listening to music ETC ) for the rest of the day. I think that as long as you spend some time with God and really mean it, and you believe in him you don't have to take everything completely literally sometimes they mean different things. But that is just my opinion.