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705: The Labyrinth Part 3
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I'd say 5 out of 5, however, I really want to vote for 4/5 because it's so much fun to say.
I like how it shows the effect it's having on Jason at the end. The 'spy' story gets the kids attention, and is fun to listen to, but points out it's not all the glamour it is in a child's mind.
I like how it shows the effect it's having on Jason at the end. The 'spy' story gets the kids attention, and is fun to listen to, but points out it's not all the glamour it is in a child's mind.
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100% say 1.
I really did not like the conclusion. They did absolutely nothing original. First they pull a Hardy Boys. Then a Superman. And then the end is just a ripoff of Waylaid in Windy City and a bunch of other stuff. They could have at least have him killing Grote over someone who was in an episode. So for a completely lack of originality and stereotyping I give it 1/5 Stars
Overall as 3 parts combine I give it 4/5.
I really did not like the conclusion. They did absolutely nothing original. First they pull a Hardy Boys. Then a Superman. And then the end is just a ripoff of Waylaid in Windy City and a bunch of other stuff. They could have at least have him killing Grote over someone who was in an episode. So for a completely lack of originality and stereotyping I give it 1/5 Stars
Overall as 3 parts combine I give it 4/5.
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-Wait, so I'm totally confused on the Jason timeline. What happened in between him leaving Odyssey and the GRC?
-Best part of the three-parter.
-I have a feeling Mr. Grote will come back and pull a Blackgaard.
-When was the last time Jason carried a show solo? A Name, Not a Number?
-Jason had to endure some cheesy lines in the Labyrinth...
-but the climax with Grote and Billings and the end with Dale were the best parts of Odyssey since the hiatus. Very well acted, written, and directed. The prayer harkened back to other action shows where the characters took time out to stop and pray. I felt like that element wasn't really present in the GRC (even Whit's prayer in part 6 was cut off).
-Score was great, although the climax music was kinda disappointing.
Part 3 made up for parts of part 1 and part 2 that I didn't really like that much. I'm willing to say it was one of the best episodes since the hiatus, and I must also add that it's NATHAN HOOBLER'S FIRST NEW EPISODE WRITTEN AFTER THE RELAUNCH! YEAHHHH NATHAN. I would just work on phrasing dialogue in a way that is not too cliche, as that happened a couple times throughout this three-parter. But overall, welcome back Odyssey. This episode: 92/100 The labyrinth as a whole: 82/100
-Wait, so I'm totally confused on the Jason timeline. What happened in between him leaving Odyssey and the GRC?
-Best part of the three-parter.
-I have a feeling Mr. Grote will come back and pull a Blackgaard.
-When was the last time Jason carried a show solo? A Name, Not a Number?
-Jason had to endure some cheesy lines in the Labyrinth...
-but the climax with Grote and Billings and the end with Dale were the best parts of Odyssey since the hiatus. Very well acted, written, and directed. The prayer harkened back to other action shows where the characters took time out to stop and pray. I felt like that element wasn't really present in the GRC (even Whit's prayer in part 6 was cut off).
-Score was great, although the climax music was kinda disappointing.
Part 3 made up for parts of part 1 and part 2 that I didn't really like that much. I'm willing to say it was one of the best episodes since the hiatus, and I must also add that it's NATHAN HOOBLER'S FIRST NEW EPISODE WRITTEN AFTER THE RELAUNCH! YEAHHHH NATHAN. I would just work on phrasing dialogue in a way that is not too cliche, as that happened a couple times throughout this three-parter. But overall, welcome back Odyssey. This episode: 92/100 The labyrinth as a whole: 82/100
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Question, shouldn't this topic be in, "Episode Reviews"?
Really? That's awesome. Jason seemed like the good old Jason, not some super hero or something.whittaker96 wrote:]NATHAN HOOBLER'S FIRST NEW EPISODE WRITTEN AFTER THE RELAUNCH! YEAHHHH NATHAN.
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^seconded. I thought it wrapped up well. It was fun, serious and just solid all the way around All three parts were good, but the conclusion was wonderful.
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Well he's not exactly 'gone bad'. He was fighting for the right cause still. He just went about the wrong way of doing it. He wasn't a turncoat or anything, just had too much revenge in his heart.Woody wrote:Billings gone bad???? I was expecting Florin to be the traitor.
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This week, the episode again starts out with a "Previously on Adventures in Odyssey..." segment. This one, like last week's, took up over two minutes, but this time I'm more appreciative of it, because enough has gone on this week that my memory was clouded up, and I actually did need reminding of a few things. So I can't complain.
I still think Ann sounds way too young for Dale. It makes every scene she's in sound weird. Oh well. I liked how they had to pay in pounds for parking. That's yet another thing you forget about when listening to episodes in foreign countries. The writers did a really good job with that. But I missed why Dale and Ann were going to the British museum. Did they want to try out the Koflax, just to see if it could really kill anybody?? Anyway, now they're following the van of Jason and his torturers because they happened to be getting to the hotel at the exact time the van was leaving.
Now we're in the van with Jason and Reggie Fingers (or shall I call him Reg?) and Jason's informing him about the plan to suffocate everyone at the British museum. I can't tell if Reggie's serious about his ignorance of the true plan, or if he's just faking it to Jason. My guess would be that he doesn't know the depths of the evil of Mr. Grote's plan, so he doesn't have any idea. By the way, what is it with the different pronunciation of vase? I, and everyone else I know, always pronounce it VACE, but is it British people then who pronounce it VAHZ? I'm pretty sure Queen Herodias in the John the Baptist episode with Aubrey Shepard pronounced it VAHZ, so I don't know what to think. Wait...the vases are the powder? That's a twist I didn't expect. I'm perplexed along with Jason, and I'm interested to find out how that's going to work. Okay, so Mr. Thugg not only has a genius name, but he's a genius about pottery, so he explains it. But how is Jason going to stop the plot with them taking him to "the warehouse"? I guess that's probably where the Jacobs's come in.
I loved it that the cabby had seen the Fish n' Chips logo on the side of the van and Dale and Ann hadn't. But how could he minutes later be so stupid as to open the door to a stranger? Or, at least, how could Dale and Ann, who know the gravity of the situation, let him do it? Anyways, they've been sprayed with probably the same stuff the Mi5 agents were sprayed with in Part 1. Now who's it up to to save the people at the museum? I guess we do still have Mi5 left, but Agent Billings didn't seem to trust Jason....
I think Jason's continues exclamations to Mycroft are going to pay off. My guess is that he'll get them out and take them to the museum in order to save his daughter. Oh, and it looks like Sew's probably back in the picture. And...we go to a commercial break. >:|
Never mind. Mycroft doesn't have a heart. He just wants his daughter out, and doesn't care about the rest of them. Oh, but he does give the cellphone-less Jason some necessary information. Maybe now he'll bring him his cell phone so he can actually pass the information on to someone who can use it. But for now Jason and Sew are stuck in the warehouse. Maybe Wooton's generality from Album 53 will ring true: there's always another way out! Fast forward. Sew's gets a heart. Enter Dale, Ann, and the cab driver. Dale actually does something smart for the first time since the first episode, and Jason gets the necessary cell phone to call Mi5.
Okay, at the museum, Agent Billings has finally come to his senses and is doing everything Jason says. He knew Jason would come through. Wait, what? I thought he didn't like Jason. Whatever. The one big problem I see here is that he sent Agent Florin to retrieve the Koflax. And we can be fairly certain that she's untrustworthy--especially based on her remark when given the task. This doesn't look good.
I thought the conversation with Reggie and Jason was reminiscent of Whit's conversation with Eugene in The Top Floor, Part 3. Jason knows where he's going if anything happens to him. Reggie doesn't. Well, Jason knows where he's going, but he, of course, never says. But then why would Jason be so concerned about what they do to Dale? He knows that Dale knows where he's going too. But before that question can be resolved, a helicopter, 12 police cars, 6 unmarked cars, a S.W.A.T. van, and a tank pull up! That is so great!!!
Next, Jason has a heart-to-heart talk with Sew that leaves me thinking, maybe just speculating, that maybe an adoption is in order in the future? Maybe? But things quickly turn dark when Billings reports that a crate of Koflax vases is missing. My guess: Florin did it, pure and simple. And now she's off to escort Dale and Ann! I hope that doesn't turn ugly. But now Jason and Billings are going to find Grote...just in time for a commercial break!
Well, I guess I was wrong. Agent Florin doesn't have the Koflax. But I still think she will be in on some part of the plot. She seemed so suspicious at the beginning. I wouldn't want it to come to nothing. Apparently the tracking device worked, since Billings and Jason are ahead of Mr. Grote at Reggie Fingers' place to keep him from getting the Koflax. I still think his voice is so great. Even better than Archie Haggler's; and I liked his a lot. WHAT??!! Talk about a totally unexpected twist!! Agent Billings is the double-crosser?? Oh, wait. Okay, that makes more sense. Goodness, talk about having me totally confused. Billings just wants revenge on Grote for killing his previous partner. Not that revenge is any better than double-crossing, but it just makes a lot more sense. But I don't see why Jason is going along with him. I would think he'd be man enough to let himself be killed before doing such an injustice to Grote. Maybe he has another plan. Well that's good. He's doing the right thing. But he may be sacrificing his life. Somehow I doubt the writers will kill Jason off though. There'd be too much of a backlash from fans. I guess we'll see.
Wow. That was a really good conclusion scene. Perfect even. One hundred times better than the Green Ring Conspiracy ever gave us. That was one of the most deeply spiritual scenes the writers have given us since the relaunch. It totally made the episodes for me, as if the action and mystery hadn't done that already.
Now I just wonder how Jason's going to manage living in Odyssey again. Most of the public believes he's dead. But I think it'd be nice to have him back. It would feel nice to have a...real-sounding Whittaker back in Odyssey. Andre Stojka, to me, just sounds fake. I think having him interact with Jason would make him sound a little more genuine and real.
Based on how much I liked these episodes, I have high expectations for the rest of the season. I already think I'm going to end up going with others who have heard the whole album in saying that this is the best album since the relaunch.
I still think Ann sounds way too young for Dale. It makes every scene she's in sound weird. Oh well. I liked how they had to pay in pounds for parking. That's yet another thing you forget about when listening to episodes in foreign countries. The writers did a really good job with that. But I missed why Dale and Ann were going to the British museum. Did they want to try out the Koflax, just to see if it could really kill anybody?? Anyway, now they're following the van of Jason and his torturers because they happened to be getting to the hotel at the exact time the van was leaving.
Now we're in the van with Jason and Reggie Fingers (or shall I call him Reg?) and Jason's informing him about the plan to suffocate everyone at the British museum. I can't tell if Reggie's serious about his ignorance of the true plan, or if he's just faking it to Jason. My guess would be that he doesn't know the depths of the evil of Mr. Grote's plan, so he doesn't have any idea. By the way, what is it with the different pronunciation of vase? I, and everyone else I know, always pronounce it VACE, but is it British people then who pronounce it VAHZ? I'm pretty sure Queen Herodias in the John the Baptist episode with Aubrey Shepard pronounced it VAHZ, so I don't know what to think. Wait...the vases are the powder? That's a twist I didn't expect. I'm perplexed along with Jason, and I'm interested to find out how that's going to work. Okay, so Mr. Thugg not only has a genius name, but he's a genius about pottery, so he explains it. But how is Jason going to stop the plot with them taking him to "the warehouse"? I guess that's probably where the Jacobs's come in.
I loved it that the cabby had seen the Fish n' Chips logo on the side of the van and Dale and Ann hadn't. But how could he minutes later be so stupid as to open the door to a stranger? Or, at least, how could Dale and Ann, who know the gravity of the situation, let him do it? Anyways, they've been sprayed with probably the same stuff the Mi5 agents were sprayed with in Part 1. Now who's it up to to save the people at the museum? I guess we do still have Mi5 left, but Agent Billings didn't seem to trust Jason....
I think Jason's continues exclamations to Mycroft are going to pay off. My guess is that he'll get them out and take them to the museum in order to save his daughter. Oh, and it looks like Sew's probably back in the picture. And...we go to a commercial break. >:|
Never mind. Mycroft doesn't have a heart. He just wants his daughter out, and doesn't care about the rest of them. Oh, but he does give the cellphone-less Jason some necessary information. Maybe now he'll bring him his cell phone so he can actually pass the information on to someone who can use it. But for now Jason and Sew are stuck in the warehouse. Maybe Wooton's generality from Album 53 will ring true: there's always another way out! Fast forward. Sew's gets a heart. Enter Dale, Ann, and the cab driver. Dale actually does something smart for the first time since the first episode, and Jason gets the necessary cell phone to call Mi5.
Okay, at the museum, Agent Billings has finally come to his senses and is doing everything Jason says. He knew Jason would come through. Wait, what? I thought he didn't like Jason. Whatever. The one big problem I see here is that he sent Agent Florin to retrieve the Koflax. And we can be fairly certain that she's untrustworthy--especially based on her remark when given the task. This doesn't look good.
I thought the conversation with Reggie and Jason was reminiscent of Whit's conversation with Eugene in The Top Floor, Part 3. Jason knows where he's going if anything happens to him. Reggie doesn't. Well, Jason knows where he's going, but he, of course, never says. But then why would Jason be so concerned about what they do to Dale? He knows that Dale knows where he's going too. But before that question can be resolved, a helicopter, 12 police cars, 6 unmarked cars, a S.W.A.T. van, and a tank pull up! That is so great!!!
Next, Jason has a heart-to-heart talk with Sew that leaves me thinking, maybe just speculating, that maybe an adoption is in order in the future? Maybe? But things quickly turn dark when Billings reports that a crate of Koflax vases is missing. My guess: Florin did it, pure and simple. And now she's off to escort Dale and Ann! I hope that doesn't turn ugly. But now Jason and Billings are going to find Grote...just in time for a commercial break!
Well, I guess I was wrong. Agent Florin doesn't have the Koflax. But I still think she will be in on some part of the plot. She seemed so suspicious at the beginning. I wouldn't want it to come to nothing. Apparently the tracking device worked, since Billings and Jason are ahead of Mr. Grote at Reggie Fingers' place to keep him from getting the Koflax. I still think his voice is so great. Even better than Archie Haggler's; and I liked his a lot. WHAT??!! Talk about a totally unexpected twist!! Agent Billings is the double-crosser?? Oh, wait. Okay, that makes more sense. Goodness, talk about having me totally confused. Billings just wants revenge on Grote for killing his previous partner. Not that revenge is any better than double-crossing, but it just makes a lot more sense. But I don't see why Jason is going along with him. I would think he'd be man enough to let himself be killed before doing such an injustice to Grote. Maybe he has another plan. Well that's good. He's doing the right thing. But he may be sacrificing his life. Somehow I doubt the writers will kill Jason off though. There'd be too much of a backlash from fans. I guess we'll see.
Wow. That was a really good conclusion scene. Perfect even. One hundred times better than the Green Ring Conspiracy ever gave us. That was one of the most deeply spiritual scenes the writers have given us since the relaunch. It totally made the episodes for me, as if the action and mystery hadn't done that already.
Now I just wonder how Jason's going to manage living in Odyssey again. Most of the public believes he's dead. But I think it'd be nice to have him back. It would feel nice to have a...real-sounding Whittaker back in Odyssey. Andre Stojka, to me, just sounds fake. I think having him interact with Jason would make him sound a little more genuine and real.
Based on how much I liked these episodes, I have high expectations for the rest of the season. I already think I'm going to end up going with others who have heard the whole album in saying that this is the best album since the relaunch.
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I post the episode threads in Whit's End cause its hard for people to find it in Episode Reviews. In Whit's End, you see it quicker.The Kings Daughter wrote:Question, shouldn't this topic be in, "Episode Reviews"?
I was so afraid that Jason would continue to travel the world in search of more bad guys to catch when there was no real reason to keep Jason from going back home.
When I heard him say he was tired and wanted to go back, I audibly said "Yes!!" I can't wait to hear Jason more often and in slice of life eps!
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Actually, only the NSA thought he was dead - er Tasha. If you go back and listen to Accidental Dilemma, the news reported that there were "no casualties and no damage to Whit's End," so Jason is perfectly ok to return to Odyssey. And since he has been doing spy work again, I am fairly certain that the NSA knows he is alive again too.Christian A. wrote:
Now I just wonder how Jason's going to manage living in Odyssey again. Most of the public believes he's dead. .
On to the Labyrinth. AMAZING!!! These three episodes are officially in my top ten ever, probably top five. Incredible acting, great script, and the message was perfect. The last scene with Jason and Dale was so REAL. I have been waiting for something like that in AIO for ages - especially with all of Jason's spy stuff. Don't get me wrong, I love the spy stuff, but it has finally been made more real by that scene. Excellent job AIO. I can't wait to see what else 55 offers.
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4/5
The end was a little fast and would have been nice if it had been 4 episodes instead of 3. Make Grout do a little more. Mr Grout was more a chicken than Blagaard.
The end was a little fast and would have been nice if it had been 4 episodes instead of 3. Make Grout do a little more. Mr Grout was more a chicken than Blagaard.
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I really liked it, The twist at the end with the vases, and then Agent Billings, it was really well done. 5/5
I loved the conversation with Jason and Dale at the end, that it shows the affects of all Jason has done in the name of national security. I do hope we see him again, in a more 'normal' setting.
Oh, and on a side note, I loved the Sherlock and Doctor Who references in the first episode
Oh, and on a side note, I loved the Sherlock and Doctor Who references in the first episode
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^I was working when listening to the 1st one, which ones were they?
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lol, just comments from Mr. Thugg about his first name being Mycroft (Sherlock Holmes' brother) and also something about having a doctor called just the doctor.
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So... what help did Jason get from Whit after he called him in the first episode? Was it just learning that Dale was in London?
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Yes and yes. ^_^Shennifer wrote:I loved the conversation with Jason and Dale at the end, that it shows the affects of all Jason has done in the name of national security. I do hope we see him again, in a more 'normal' setting.
Oh, and on a side note, I loved the Sherlock and Doctor Who references in the first episode
I believe it was just learning that Jason had an old friend, who might be able to help, in London. There wasn't a ton Whit could do anyway. The Paul Herlinger Whit would have saved the day himself, though.DanP740 wrote:So... what help did Jason get from Whit after he called him in the first episode? Was it just learning that Dale was in London?
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I give this episode five stars out of five. The ending was intriguing and very good. I really liked it.
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Jason should return to Odyssey as an everyday character. That is my favorite aspect of this threequel.
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