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Dated episodes

Postby Calhoun07 » Sun May 14, 2017 11:19 am

I think a lot of the episodes from the series are timeless.

But, as with any long running series, there will be exceptions.

Off the top of my head, the Castles And Cauldrons two parter is certainly dated. Whether or not you like the game the episode is based on, which is personal preference, it certainly can be said now that the concern that Dungeons and Dragons was demonic in nature was unfounded and all hype.

Fun fact, the creator of the game, Gary Gygax, was actually a Republican-then later a Libertarian- and a Christian. Dave Arneson, also a co-creator of the game, was a devout Christian as well, and was said to have been a loyal friend and "had that rare quality among people that he could be truly happy for his friends." (From his online memorial.)

What other episodes can you think of that seem dated after all these years?
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Bob » Sun May 14, 2017 1:35 pm

The Blackgaard saga was wonderful in many ways, but the one thing that strikes me about its earlier episodes is that the writing staff at the time didn't know a lot about technology. It was passable when addressing a captive and uninformed audience, but a bit cringeworthy to those 'in the know'. Now pretty much everyone knows the basics of computers and electronic gadgets and that "that's not how it works", and the episodes suffer a little for it. (That said, by Darkness before Dawn they seemed to be basically up to par.)
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Calhoun07 » Sun May 14, 2017 5:54 pm

Bob wrote:The Blackgaard saga was wonderful in many ways, but the one thing that strikes me about its earlier episodes is that the writing staff at the time didn't know a lot about technology. It was passable when addressing a captive and uninformed audience, but a bit cringeworthy to those 'in the know'. Now pretty much everyone knows the basics of computers and electronic gadgets and that "that's not how it works", and the episodes suffer a little for it. (That said, by Darkness before Dawn they seemed to be basically up to par.)


There are also a lot of 90s movies that are quite dated and invoke a feeling of "that's not now that works" when you go back and watch those, either.

That issue seems to have plagued a lot of 90s projects in different media forms.
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby The Top Crusader » Mon May 15, 2017 9:39 am

Along with the first Blackgaard saga... and even years later when Whit had gone and Jason and Jack were running Whit's End (and even some random Jimmy Barclay episodes mentioning Zap-a-Zoids), the references to arcades is kind of funny. I mean, yes, technically speaking arcades do still exist, but back at the time of the original Blackgaard saga the idea of a stand alone arcade "Blackgaard's Castle" was perfectly plausible, as that kind of thing was all over the place. A lot of kids these days probably have no idea what that's all about. :mecry:
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Isaiah the Ox » Mon May 15, 2017 11:57 am

We do if we have seen Wreck-it Ralph. \:D/

There's the obvious mentions of pagers (which I still have no idea what they are), "cellular phones", computers that sound like dying factories, etc. But in general I've just accepted they take place years ago, not today. I suppose that's not the point here, but still. =p
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Mariogeek » Tue May 16, 2017 10:02 am

Certainly, some of the episodes can feel like the old series of MacGyver, where things just magically work because they came up with a complicated enough explanation. One of those that certainly reminds me of this is Novacom, though the novelty of it will never wear off. What if Novacom had taken over Apple Watches instead!?!? Let's make a new one!
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Jimmy Barclay Fan » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:20 pm

The Eugene - Bernard road trip is dated now. No one in Odyssey could contact them because they did not know how to contact them and where they were . With cell phones and email the way it is now, plus social media, it is a lot easier to contact people now.
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Catspaw » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:45 pm

That's a great example, Jimmy Barclay Fan. I actually think that about a lot of older books and movies - there are oodles of plot lines that would be totally moot with the existence of a cell phone. It doesn't make it bad because at the time they didn't exist, but it does make you think, "That wouldn't happen these days!"
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby GJ » Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:04 am

Catspaw wrote:That's a great example, Jimmy Barclay Fan. I actually think that about a lot of older books and movies - there are oodles of plot lines that would be totally moot with the existence of a cell phone. It doesn't make it bad because at the time they didn't exist, but it does make you think, "That wouldn't happen these days!"

And so the things that happened had to canonically occur more than two decades ago, if we're omitting the use of cellular devices completely. Ay ay ay.
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Catspaw » Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:32 pm

GJ wrote:
Catspaw wrote:That's a great example, Jimmy Barclay Fan. I actually think that about a lot of older books and movies - there are oodles of plot lines that would be totally moot with the existence of a cell phone. It doesn't make it bad because at the time they didn't exist, but it does make you think, "That wouldn't happen these days!"

And so the things that happened had to canonically occur more than two decades ago, if we're omitting the use of cellular devices completely. Ay ay ay.
Catspaw, I have never seen the word moot before, I like it. :)

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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Marvin D. » Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:18 am

I'll say the same not about moot, but oodles--never actually heard/seen someone use it before \:D/
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby The Top Crusader » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:56 am

Did someone say "the"? What's that?
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Marvin D. » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:01 pm

The Top Crusader wrote:Did someone say "the"? What's that?

The newest word in the dictionary, indeed :yes:
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Catspaw » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:51 pm

Marvin D. wrote:I'll say the same not about moot, but oodles--never actually heard/seen someone use it before \:D/

Clearly my presence has opened up new worlds to many people here on the ToO! \:D/ I like using "oodles." It's oodles of fun! :yes:

This off-topic discussion actually made me think of an on-topic item - words that used to be in frequent use that aren't anymore. I can't think of a specific AIO example offhand, though I'm sure I'll think of lots when I'm not trying to think of one, but some words fall out of popular use over decades.
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby The Top Crusader » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:11 am

I thought it was weird how Whit would use "ham" instead of "wife" some times but I guess that was just the way of talking from those days.
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby Dallas R. » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:20 am

Catspaw wrote:That's a great example, Jimmy Barclay Fan. I actually think that about a lot of older books and movies - there are oodles of plot lines that would be totally moot with the existence of a cell phone. It doesn't make it bad because at the time they didn't exist, but it does make you think, "That wouldn't happen these days!"


I've been listening to the Left Behind Audio Series for the first time, and there are many points in that series where they are struggling to get ahold of one another. It's especially glaring since it's supposed to take place in the future.
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Re: Dated episodes

Postby TigerintheShadows » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:52 am

Don't forget "Nova Rising" and Alex talking about the Internet connection claiming that "it must be one of those high-speed lines". Ah, to have come of age in the era of dial-up...

The mention of the Eugene/Bernard road trip reminds me of this one time when someone posted in the Q&A on the AIOWiki wondering why Connie had so much trouble getting ahold of Eugene and Bernard and I had to explain to them that cell phones didn't see widespread use in the early '90s. Made me feel old and I wasn't even born then. :(
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