Worst AIO Character?
Worst AIO Character?
This isn't a thread to bash Emily or the character you think is the worst. It's a topic to discuss what's the worst or weakest character, and why you think that.
I'm going to add a poll later, because I don't have many character for it. But you guys will shape the poll.
I personally think the weakest is Harlow Doyle, because he didn't have much of a purpose on the show. He didn't really teach morals or anything....
So who is the weakest character? Emily? Camilla? Liz? Matthew?
I'm going to add a poll later, because I don't have many character for it. But you guys will shape the poll.
I personally think the weakest is Harlow Doyle, because he didn't have much of a purpose on the show. He didn't really teach morals or anything....
So who is the weakest character? Emily? Camilla? Liz? Matthew?
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Any Captain Absolutely character, they just seem silly and don't really get the point across. Its almost like the episode with the room of conscience in which Matthew and Connie programs it and Barrett things the programs are ridiculous and illogic (which they were). In the same way Captain Absolutely characters are just ridiculous and way off in right field.
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Buzz wrote:I would say maybe... Vance? Nelson and Ryan, too.
This is such a horrible case of groupthink.Aftershocker wrote:I would say Vance. What's his last name?
Vance is a fine character. I see no reason why the first two posters in this thread would mention his name.
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I second this post.Stop Wooton' Around wrote:Any Captain Absolutely character, they just seem silly and don't really get the point across. Its almost like the episode with the room of conscience in which Matthew and Connie programs it and Barrett things the programs are ridiculous and illogic (which they were). In the same way Captain Absolutely characters are just ridiculous and way off in right field.
I actually like Vance as a character, he's definitely not on my "worst character list"American Eagle wrote:
Vance is a fine character. I see no reason why the first two posters in this thread would mention his name.
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Jay Smouse!... NOT. Whit since the re-launch anyone?
Or Emily. Really can't go wrong with one of them.
Or Emily. Really can't go wrong with one of them.
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Ryan, Buzz? Ryan is a great character. And so is Vance. He's much better than Rodney in terms of a bully. I'm interested to see more of him.
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I like Ryan as well. I like the concept of his character (popular, natural leader, strong Christian, athletic), and I think he, as a popular jock who isn't demonized, makes for an interesting addition to the cast. He's very well-rounded, in my opinion.
See, this is kind of hard for me because I know the characters I dislike (Emily Jones, I'm lookin' at you ), but just because I dislike them does not mean that they are bad characters. For that reason, I really appreciate how you defined "worst character", Joy.
I think I'm also going to use characterization in this case, and for that reason, I shall discuss post-Novacom Rodney Rathbone (I honestly think he went into Antagonist Decay after Darkness Before Dawn, but he still got some good episodes). And the thing is, it's more because of wasted potential than anything else.
I just recently listened to "Aloha Oy!" and much of the Blackgaard saga, and it just makes me think about how classic and lovable Rodney was back then, when his status as the local bully wasn't milked for all it was worth, nor was it necessarily his defining schtick. Why couldn't we have seen more of Rodney like that, instead of him remaining the Perpetual Bully? He had a lot of potential as a character, as we saw in the Blackgaard saga and other such episodes, but instead he was downgraded, along with his parents, into being a one-dimensional go-to bully character.
I feel like, with the exception of some of the lines he got, he could have been so easily replaced by a new character and he could have moved on to new stories, but he grew into such a weak character that it didn't happen, nor could it. At least Bart and Doris could still make for good story material, even if they were only ever used as comic relief post-DBD, but Rodney not being allowed to grow up and his character decay make him much less justifiable.
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I'd also like to bring up the fact that the characterization of pretty much everyone in the split episodes falls under the "does nothing to help the show and is if anything a detriment" category, as well as the post-Novacom characterizations of Connie and Mitch.
See, this is kind of hard for me because I know the characters I dislike (Emily Jones, I'm lookin' at you ), but just because I dislike them does not mean that they are bad characters. For that reason, I really appreciate how you defined "worst character", Joy.
I think I'm also going to use characterization in this case, and for that reason, I shall discuss post-Novacom Rodney Rathbone (I honestly think he went into Antagonist Decay after Darkness Before Dawn, but he still got some good episodes). And the thing is, it's more because of wasted potential than anything else.
I just recently listened to "Aloha Oy!" and much of the Blackgaard saga, and it just makes me think about how classic and lovable Rodney was back then, when his status as the local bully wasn't milked for all it was worth, nor was it necessarily his defining schtick. Why couldn't we have seen more of Rodney like that, instead of him remaining the Perpetual Bully? He had a lot of potential as a character, as we saw in the Blackgaard saga and other such episodes, but instead he was downgraded, along with his parents, into being a one-dimensional go-to bully character.
I feel like, with the exception of some of the lines he got, he could have been so easily replaced by a new character and he could have moved on to new stories, but he grew into such a weak character that it didn't happen, nor could it. At least Bart and Doris could still make for good story material, even if they were only ever used as comic relief post-DBD, but Rodney not being allowed to grow up and his character decay make him much less justifiable.
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I'd also like to bring up the fact that the characterization of pretty much everyone in the split episodes falls under the "does nothing to help the show and is if anything a detriment" category, as well as the post-Novacom characterizations of Connie and Mitch.
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While I don't think that Wooton is the worst character, he has certainly been quite morally useless, at least in comparison to pre-2nd-hiatus-Wooton. Captain Absolutely episodes are also very over-the-top and are more of a gimmick than a solid lesson-building tool.
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I was thinking the same. Wooton is a tricky character--he's not like Connie, who can play many roles in a story. You have to be able to write him well to fit him into the episode, and he should only be used in small doses. I think characterization of the main characters has been a pretty big problem post-2nd-hiatus, and this doesn't show through better with any other character than Wooton.Leonard Meltsner wrote:While I don't think that Wooton is the worst character, he has certainly been quite morally useless, at least in comparison to pre-2nd-hiatus-Wooton. Captain Absolutely episodes are also very over-the-top and are more of a gimmick than a solid lesson-building tool.
I think about "Plan B: Resistance", "The Popsicle Kid", "Tuesdays With Wooton", and "The Coolest Dog". Wooton's eccentricities were expressed very well, and he was able to use his quirks and mannerisms to point people to God--or at the very least, doing the right thing. He hasn't been doing much of that since the relaunch, and it shows. Even though the only Captain Absolutely episode I remember is the one from "Push the Red Button", I can still see that it's incredibly over-the-top--which is to say nothing about Wooton himself. At least pre-relaunch, when this was first beginning to rear its ugly head, Wooton was able to be serious and to grow as a character. I like Wooton a great deal...just not when he's been Flanderized into what he is.
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O, I actually love Wooton himself (hence my username) but not Captain Absolutely. I would totally agree with the post 2nd hiatus Whit is pretty useless. I like those episodes as long as Whit doesn't try to explain something or Captain Absolutely.
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...and this.Leonard Meltsner wrote:While I don't think that Wooton is the worst character, he has certainly been quite morally useless, at least in comparison to pre-2nd-hiatus-Wooton. Captain Absolutely episodes are also very over-the-top and are more of a gimmick than a solid lesson-building tool.
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We have had many a debate on this on the Soda Shop.
My position is that Valerie is by far the worst character. I have a few good posts I can quote here if you are at all intriqued.
My position is that Valerie is by far the worst character. I have a few good posts I can quote here if you are at all intriqued.
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To me, Ryan is kind of shallow. He's not much different from other characters out there, and he's kind of dull. I suppose the main reason I don't like him is because he's so unlike the REAL Ryan Cummings in the Kidsboro books.Joy wrote:Ryan, Buzz? Ryan is a great character. And so is Vance. He's much better than Rodney in terms of a bully. I'm interested to see more of him.
And Vance is just a normal typical bully. He has no personality, he just goes wherever he pleases and bullies people. With Rodney, Rodney was funny, kind of stupid, and had a great personality! With Vance, it's just like you-know, whatever. I suppose (so far) they haven't really developed his character.
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Wooton post-hiatus, as some other posters have written in. He's not growing as a character and Christianity hasn't even been mentioned with him in...forever. He's really only used as a tool for humor nowadays.
And everyone else on my list are characters that were both uninteresting and unlikable:
Danny Schmidt, 'cause of his voice and the fact that there's nothing about him that makes me care to listen to episodes featuring him.
Annie from The Day After Christmas. She's rich and she doesn't know it and it's about her and she has a monotone when she prattles on about her Christmas.
On the positive side, Emily would've made this list two years ago, but thanks to her really interesting "Suddenly I'm not sure what I want to do with my life" story arc, she's been made human. Not exacctly likable, but very interesting.
And everyone else on my list are characters that were both uninteresting and unlikable:
Danny Schmidt, 'cause of his voice and the fact that there's nothing about him that makes me care to listen to episodes featuring him.
Annie from The Day After Christmas. She's rich and she doesn't know it and it's about her and she has a monotone when she prattles on about her Christmas.
On the positive side, Emily would've made this list two years ago, but thanks to her really interesting "Suddenly I'm not sure what I want to do with my life" story arc, she's been made human. Not exacctly likable, but very interesting.
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Yeah, Danny and Wooton and I dunno, that kid that was afraid of babies or something, I forget. They were all pretty bad.