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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:26 pm 
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Done with season two.
More skeptical timing this season.
All that abuse stuff Kim was dealing with really happened to come to a head on the same day the bomb plot was going down? Highly unlikely, the two were not connected in any way, even tangentially. The guy had issues, it was completely random when he would finally snap. The odds that it occurred on the bomb day were 1 in 365.
And then when she randomly got caught in that trap in the woods, it had the same feeling of desperation to draw out her part here as the amnesia thing in season one did. It was just such a chance event to drop in at that exact moment. Especially since it took her in a whole new direction from there. At least the amnesia was only a brief hold which eventually met back up with the original story.
Then the liquor store incident, another completely chance set of circumstances that happened to develop into a sidetrack just when she was finally being brought back into things.
The other storyline, the wedding, started out questionable as well, but when it was revealed that there was actually a connection then it made sense. I did still have one question though, why would the lady have her wedding be on this day if she knew what was going on?

I did not expect to see Nina back. This wasn't done by the people she was involved with, these other people approached her for the plans to do the CTU bombing as part of their nuke plot. Sort of seems like a stretch connection to have a reason to bring back the character, but then again where else would they have gotten the plans from, that's why she was there, to be a mole.

It's really terrible about Mason. Not just what happened, but because it shouldn't have been able to happen. He shouldn't have still been there, Palmer said he'd get him to Washington within the first month of his term. I guess it had to happen so he would end up flying the plane though.

Gosh Miguel is a total jerk! He was the one that insisted they pull that stunt in the police car, Kim told him not to! What the heck dude?

I'm a little disappointed Mike was the only person Palmer made resign. I totally get why he did it, but really I feel like he was the one that was actually the least traitory or however you want to put it. He wasn't on some power grab conspiracy or anything like that, he was honestly doing what he thought was the right thing solely for the sake of trying to do the right thing. It wasn't anything against Palmer, in fact it greatly pained him that it had to go down that way. It seemed to me if any of them were going to be given a second chance Mike would definitely be one of them.

And then talk about an abrupt ending! Wait, I said that last time. Are all the seasons going to be like this? This one seemed more like a cliffhanger though, is this story going to continue next time?

I noticed both seasons so far have had two part stories. The first one started with the assassination plot but transitioned into dealing with the people behind it. This one started with the bomb threat but transitioned into dealing with the response. This is due to the format, because the season is simply too long to stay on one thing the whole way through. It's all the same story, but there are different primary focuses in it as it goes along.
It makes for a really detailed plot, more than you would have if they tried to just stretch the initial premise the whole way. A season of only 'stop the assassination' or only 'find the bomb' could be done, but it would most likely run out of steam. And even if it didn't it just wouldn't be as compelling as these fuller stories are. I've been impressed so far and am excited to see what other kinds of tales they tell in the other seasons.


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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:21 pm 
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Of course events will coincidentally occur on the same day; it's a TV show, it's not always realistic. That twist with the girl who was getting married being part of the terrorist part took me by surprise when I first watched it. Also, it broke my heart because someone brainwashed her and she shouldn't have been a part of it.

The whole scene with the store and the shooting, etc. seems to me to show how people were starting to learn about the bomb and were growing desperate. That, in my opinion, is a realistic response.
I'm glad Jack didn't die, but I felt sad about Mason.
I suppose they could've ended Kim's story after that little girl was safe, or even after she thought her father was dead, or possibly have a moment where she finds out he's okay but not have her in as many episodes after her first and perhaps arguably the best storyline ended. But I'm okay that they didn't

I know Mike was trying to do the right thing, but I still think it went too far and he should've just talked to Palmer about what was going on (mind you, I forget some of the details about why he didn't, so maybe I'm missing something).

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:25 am 
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You misunderstand. I have no problem with the sequence of events that went down at the store. As you say, plausible reaction to the bomb going off. What I didn’t like was that they happened to occur at the brief period when Kim was there. I know ‘it’s a tv show’ but still, it’s just too perfect timing. And also because it came after the bunker thing, so she had the gun, it was just too convenient. Too perfectly set up to go down like that. Because of the previous chance incident where she acquired a gun, it facilitated this chance incident to escalate into the standoff.

Mike did talk to Palmer, that was the thing. He didn’t give him warning the cabinet was going to out him, in so many words, but he urged him strongly and multiple times to give his decision serious thought and make absolutely sure it was the only one he could come to. Because if he had changed his mind it wouldn’t have happened. He didn’t want to help get Palmer out, what he wanted was to ensure the plan that cost the fewest American lives was followed, and everyone but Palmer agreed it was the other one. And with perfectly good reason. We the audience know Jack is always right, but there’s no reason for everyone else to take his word against the mountain of evidence they had. So Mike was genuinely doing the right thing in his situation, the only reason he helped move Palmer was because that was the only way they could go with what was believed to be the better plan.


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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:39 pm 
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Thanks for more clarity about the details, because it's been awhile.

I get what you're saying about it being too perfect as far as timing. That might be a case of trying to keep the story moving (particularly Kim's story). What comes to mind is that it might've been more interesting if Kim hadn't taken the gun, and then still encountered the situation at the store, and possibly end up regretting her decision. But that's just my opinion

It's definitely plausible that Palmer's people wouldn't necessarily have the same faith in Jack that he would. It's in these moments that I wish Palmer wasn't one of the only people who believed him. I definitely understand what Mike was trying to do; it's just too bad it ended up hurting someone

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 2:18 pm 
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That’s the thing though, if she hadn’t taken the gun, there wouldn’t have been an issue that developed there. The reason it turned into a hostage situation was because she pulled out the gun, and the guy ended up with it. That’s what I’m saying. This whole chance encounter was set up by the previous chance encounter, enabling her to just happen to have a gun later on in order to accelerate the store scene into something that gets dragged out instead of just being a brief sidetrack.

Yeah, I would hope that as the series goes on more people start putting faith in Jack. This early on I can understand Palmer and maybe Tony by now are the only ones that get him, but surely once he averts the next two or three disasters people will come around and realize they need to take notice when he says something. (I’m assuming Jack always wins, I think that’s the premise of the show.)


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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:57 pm 
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I guess what I was trying to say is that what if the situation had gotten out of hand without a gun present. And then Kim could wish that she could've taken that gun for protection, something along those lines.

You're pretty accurate in your premise of the show; it just gets harder and harder to win as the seasons roll on.

btw, I think we've taken over this thread \:D/

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 5:00 pm 
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:57 am 
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Jack: I'm on my way

I know you have a long way to go before you finish all eight seasons, but the ninth one just started a couple weeks ago and I think it's pretty good

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:46 pm 
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...spoiler tags for a show that's ancient? O_o (Admittedly, I may be biased because of how many years I've watched the show.)

S9 or Live Another Day (weirdly James Bond-esque) is okay. Not terribly exciting, thus far, but it's an interesting experiment, if nothing else.

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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:09 pm 
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:52 pm 
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I remember liking season 3, when I first saw and when I rewatched it.

just so you know, bookworm, I won't be able to post in this thread this summer seeing as my summer job takes me away from home.

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:22 pm 
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Well, Season 9 is picking up a bit now, but, kind of weird to think it is almost 1/2 way now... Still, I look forward to further developments

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Season 9 (or 1, depending on how you look at it) is finished. Crazy, sad, and bittersweet

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Apparently the show is back, but without Jack. I don't approve.


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