Re: The Lone Ranger
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:46 pm
Heaven forbid.
..are you not 18?
..are you not 18?
This is silly. The 'critics' are just as much of an 'actual audience' as anyone else. Some of them just get paid to write about the films they watch. Generally, the critics are people who also take movies more seriously than most other people.. so when the general consensus is negative, it probably means another heap of shallow entertainment and that only the least demanding audiences will enjoy.bookworm wrote:Yeah, from what I hear it’s only the critics giving negative feedback, the actual audiences like it. Which makes me extra angry our theater bailed, if that was indeed the cause.
That is silly. Critics may have more ‘refined’ movie tastes (though that is debatable) but when the consensus from official critics is negative, yet the consensus from ‘regular’ people is positive, it is clear who the real audience is. There are more ‘casual’ viewers than critics, and if they like the movie that’s what matters. You can say ‘they just like it because they don’t know what’s good’ but that doesn’t matter, the point is they like it whatever their reason.Jelly wrote:This is silly. The 'critics' are just as much of an 'actual audience' as anyone else. Some of them just get paid to write about the films they watch. Generally, the critics are people who also take movies more seriously than most other people.. so when the general consensus is negative, it probably means another heap of shallow entertainment and that only the least demanding audiences will enjoy.bookworm wrote:Yeah, from what I hear it’s only the critics giving negative feedback, the actual audiences like it. Which makes me extra angry our theater bailed, if that was indeed the cause.
Sounds like someone gets agitated when they don't like what the critics have to say.bookworm wrote:Critics may have more ‘refined’ movie tastes (though that is debatable)
You sound like a Hollywood executive. I guess we can justify Transformers 5, 6 and 7 now.bookworm wrote:There are more ‘casual’ viewers than critics, and if they like the movie that’s what matters.
Don't waste your money seeing it in theatres. It's not worth a full ticket price Just wait until it comes out on DVD.Jelly wrote:I haven't seen The Lone Ranger yet, though.
Not at all, I’m more than welcome to what anyone has to say. What agitates me is when they don’t just say it, they declare it as if it’s the only correct opinion. And the rest of your post shows the exact same mindset. 'The critics are more knowledgeable so they are the ones that really know what’s good. If anyone, Heaven forbid, enjoys a critically panned movie it’s because those poor souls are too stupid to know it’s not good.' Is it possible they just have different tastes that cause them to personally like the movie? 'No, absolutely not, they’re just mindless screen watchers.' It’s an attitude that is sickeningly arrogant, yet extremely pervasive.Jelly wrote:Sounds like someone gets agitated when they don't like what the critics have to say.bookworm wrote:Critics may have more ‘refined’ movie tastes (though that is debatable)
Jelly wrote:If someone with a more 'refined' taste in film doesn't like a certain movie that his friends did, it might be because he's already seen two of three other movies that utilize the same plot events or themes, and is therefore able to recognize the clichés that others might miss. It might be because he's seen more of what film is capable of offering, and is sooner disappointed when a movie isn't as great as it could have been.
Absolutely! I’m not disagreeing with this at all. It’s great if someone is personally able to get a deeper analysis of a movie through their experience and maturity. Good for them! But that doesn’t mean the movie itself is universally bad, only that, as you said, it could have been better and certain people realize that. They come away personally unsatisfied, and that is their prerogative. But the less mature doesn’t have the baggage or enlightenment, depending on how you want to view it, that gives them that ‘deeper’ response, and so they are capable of enjoying it. And good for them too! It’s not a flaw to be less mature, again as you say, it’s the result of less exposure than their more refined friends.Jelly wrote:It's the process of maturing.
As do I Termite; and I will get that chance here after all! My theater suddenly put this back up! Other people must have been as upset as I was and complained when they dropped it. My group is excited, our plans are back on.Termite wrote:I tend to ignore reviews aside from content and make the decision for myself whether or not the movie is good.