I didn’t expect anyone else saw it. I didn't know much either, but I've learned from some research and a podcast that I listen to about the show that the Island part is from the original story, but in the normal story Arrow lost all of his family in a some sort of plane crash or something. An interesting connection that I found out about half-way through the show is that Manu Bennet (Slade from the Island) plays the pale orc in the Hobbit movies.bookworm wrote:I didn’t know anything about Green Arrow going into this, so I don’t know if any or all of this is actual story or just created for the show, but regardless I loved it.
Did I miss something?BlessedCheesemaker wrote:Take special note of the boat that is broken and sunk in the bay.
I’m sure she will and she won’t, respectively. The epiphany was perfectly placed to be believable and sincere. I’m sure it really shook her eyes open. And I won’t lie, the scene actually made me shed a tear. It was a really powerful moment. Very well done.BlessedCheesemaker wrote:hopefully her character will continue to develop as she deals with this guilt in a better way. As long as she doesn't go back to hating him again next episode
I noticed that. I thought it was him, because I read he’ll be in a couple episodes as the Dark Archer, and I’m assuming this group being referenced is the League of Assassins, of which he is a member, so I thought that must be him, but apparently not. Very strange similarity then though.BlessedCheesemaker wrote:actually that costume is the same one that Malcolm wore last season
Woah, great observation! I never made that connection!BlessedCheesemaker wrote:As soon as Roy handed that box to his "contact," I knew he had stolen it from Thea.
I know, I’ve only known him as a bad guy from the only thing I’ve known him in, the Teen Titans cartoon, so it was very weird for me last season realizing who he was, and then realizing he’s a good guy here. It will be interesting to see what causes the turn, if that’s going to be a part of this show.BlessedCheesemaker wrote:Supposedly Slade Wilson in the comics is actually a villain of sorts
I always thought it was the mask of the other soldier, the one that tortured him. Because it’s not just hung up, like a memorial, the arrow through the eye makes it look more like a warning/trophy.BlessedCheesemaker wrote:Maybe the cap that we see hanging on a stick ... is a memorial of sorts.
I think we are basically getting two seasons in one with Arrow. We have the main story in the present time and the island story. Just like there are new plots and bad guys this season in the present time, there are story lines and bad guys (and girlsbookworm wrote:I don't know if they're all supposed to fit together, or if Fyers was one thing and now the graves are another.
) on the island.That really doesn't make sense at all, because Oliver floated on the life raft for a while before arrive at the island. This boat is in the bay. We don't know when the Gambit was salvaged though... I doubt it was salvaged immediately after the wreck.Astronomer wrote:(Much more sense than what I originally thought, that it was the Queen's Gambit, because that was salvaged.)
Really? For how long? I probably could have at least considered the possibility, if not actually seen it coming, if I thought the show was open to huge twists like this, but her being dead was one of the things that was always presented as definite, because it was a big part of what made Oliver into who he his.BlessedCheesemaker wrote:I've been kind of expecting it to be her.
Story-wise (as Oliver’s character nemeses) or completely? Because I’m sure I read that Merlyn would be back this season, at least briefly.BlessedCheesemaker wrote:The writers have said that they had to create two characters to replace Malcolm Merlyn.
Define strange. If you mean it was strange for her dad to think that, I don’t think it was. He’s been there, he would know the temptations. And he was right, she is turning to drinking, and apparently now pills. But if you mean it was a strange direction for Laurel to go from here, I agree. After that heart wrenching realization moment I thought she would reexamine things and use her grief in a positive way, as Oliver did. He used it to reinvent himself in protecting the city, I thought she would use it to reinvent her relationship with The Arrow, becoming willing to work with him again, even more so than before now, to continue fighting crime in Tommy’s memory. But instead she went the other way, with the grief leading to blame instead of resolve.BlessedCheesemaker wrote:The whole part with Laurel was kind of strange
There were multiple references to something strange with the bones, but I don’t know what, or why that’s important.BlessedCheesemaker wrote:They found some dead Japanese soldiers there... so what?
No, I get that. All the island story is present Oliver backstory. I meant if the two parts of the island story were connected. Was Fyers looking for the graves too, or was he just there to do his rocket thing and he just happened to pick the same island that these kidnappers would come looking for later on.BlessedCheesemaker wrote:We have the main story in the present time and the island story.
) But I was expecting her not to have died. Maybe that's just me, or it being a comic book show, but I'm very distrustful of people actually dying. Basically 'cause it's so fun to bring them back. I think that’s more from an unusual amount of conditioning he’s been through.Astronomer wrote:perhaps that's why Oliver has such unusual strength, speed, etc...
