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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Shennifer » Tue May 06, 2014 11:48 am

I definitely get what you're saying, bookworm. The way I see it is that Skye might hate Ward now, and think he's a terrible person, but it doesn't mean she's lost all her emotions. He meant something to her, once. And in a sense, he still does. And she's hurt by his betrayal. Anger at his actions wasn't her initial reaction; I'm willing to bet that a few other emotions came first.
Plus, Deathlock raises the question to Skye, when he affirms that yes, Ward is a murderer, but is she? Now, we know she isn't. And I don't think she'd want a life on her conscience, even if it was someone who has betrayed her. Besides, if she HAD let Ward die, they might've eventually hurt her or threatened more people she cared about (they might've had ways to get to them, for all Skye knew.) She certainly could've let Ward die, but I think (and this is only speculation) even though they needed her to unlock the drive, if they kill Ward they move to hurt her (not fatally, but just enough to get her to unlock the drive. They wouldn't kill her, seeing as the Clairvoyant wants her for some reason.

And this last thought doesn't have a whole lot basis in the show (visibly anyway), but maybe Skye thinks that by sparing Ward, he now owes her one, and she could use that to her advantage.

About Coulson, do you really think that just knowing what the side effects will be is what causes them? That makes it sound like it's purely in his head, and not based in reality.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby bookworm » Mon May 12, 2014 1:28 pm

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About Coulson, do you really think that just knowing what the side effects will be is what causes them? That makes it sound like it's purely in his head, and not based in reality.
That's what they said. Yes it does sound that way, because I think that's the way it is. I don't think there are any physical side effects, or at least they are minimal, what does the damage is purely psychological. When they realize what's happened to them it drives them crazy. Because it is a pretty disturbing thing.


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This was a pretty good episode.
The backstory on Ward filled out what made him who he is, but it wasn't exactly an explanation of who he is. It was the how he became this, not the why he became it. Which really is all there is, because he was pulled into HYDRA right off, so there wasn't a why, it was just all he always knew.

There's no way Fitz and Simmons go out like that. I'm not saying it's unthinkable they die at any point (I personally hope not, but it's a possibility) I'm saying if they do this isn't it. The characters are too important for that to be the end, if and when they're killed off they'll get a more dignified scene. So this was an emotion fail. Instead of being 'I don't believe it; no!' it was just 'This is temporary drama, just wait for next episode.' There wasn't even a fraction of a moment where I thought that could even possibly be the end, I know with certainty it's not. They have a tracking device, remember. They'll get fished out in the finale.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Shennifer » Mon May 12, 2014 6:06 pm

If there are little to no physical effects, then there might be hope of helping the psychological effects and making sure the patient doesn't go off the deep end.

Can't wait for the finale. No, I don't think Fitz or Simmons will die at this point but in the future, who knows? This is a Joss Whedon show after all; have you seen any other Whedon shows, bookworm? Because then you would understand that character death and heartbreak is inevitable, along with awesome stories and characters
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby bookworm » Tue May 13, 2014 11:15 am

I have not, but I am well aware of the infamy. That’s why I said it’s not inconceivable for them to die at some point, only that this isn’t it.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Shennifer » Tue May 13, 2014 12:42 pm

Infamy is a good word for it. In his other shows, he has waited until second, third, etc. seasons to kill off characters, but I recall at least one show where he killed someone in the first season

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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Knight Fisher » Tue May 13, 2014 10:25 pm

The whole series was worth it just for that shot of Nick Fury pulling up Simmons.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby The Top Crusader » Wed May 14, 2014 6:40 am

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I haven't watched the last episode yet. I was sad that the fat guy hanging out at the hidden base was killed off a couple episodes ago, I was hoping he'd be a semi-regular. Wasn't he the voice of that cooking rat?
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Shennifer » Wed May 14, 2014 10:29 am

I thought the finale was wonderful. I look forward to the next season
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Whitty Whit » Thu May 15, 2014 9:41 am

The finale was amazing.

I love how May defeated Ward. I still want Ward to overcome though. So much potential storylines. Couldn't they remove all the cybernetics from Deathlock too? I mean, if they can do that for all the other random peons, wouldn't they do it for him too? I loved that shot of Nick picking up Simmons. That fat guy though. I don't know what to think. But uh-oh, I think Coulson's losing it. He's going crazy just like Garret. Which the last scene with him was HILARIOUS. I loved that. That 'splosion though.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby The Top Crusader » Thu May 15, 2014 11:23 am

If you remove *all* the cybernetics from Deathlok, then he's no longer Deathlok. >_>

He's only a Marvel C-tier character at best, but it would be dumb to just make him not even be what he's known for. >_>
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby bookworm » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:04 pm

Why did May throw away the Asgard staff? >_> It's the only thing that's been shown to give any kind of chance against a super soldier, surely they should have kept it to use again later.

I was very confused about what made Garrett go crazy and/or evolve. They said it was the drug, but it didn't do that to anyone else that took it.
Until the very end where now apparently Coulson is catching it. So is this, the mental enlightenment, the side effects that were referred to before?

I liked the episode itself, but once again the dialogue came off as extremely clunky to me. Even more than the last time; I was physically cringing here. And it wasn't just a few scenes like before either, this was just start to end bad.

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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby The Top Crusader » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:27 pm

Yeah, I finally got caught up. \:D/
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby bookworm » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:31 pm

I’m curious what’s going to happen with Fitz’s character if there’s a second season. He’s going to have mental damage for quite a while, if not permanently, but I can’t see them remaking his role in the show to fit that, they would surely just drop him from the regular cast. But if that’s going to be the case, what was the point in having him survive? If he’s leaving the show, he should have died. Having him alive but not there is pointless isn’t it?
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Astronomer » Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:31 pm

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I’m curious what’s going to happen with Fitz’s character if there’s a second season. He’s going to have mental damage for quite a while, if not permanently, but I can’t see them remaking his role in the show to fit that, they would surely just drop him from the regular cast. But if that’s going to be the case, what was the point in having him survive? If he’s leaving the show, he should have died. Having him alive but not there is pointless isn’t it?

I think, knowing Whedon's track record of turning favorite characters evil, Fitz will probably be a villain in future seasons.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Knight Fisher » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:53 am

Well it's back. They had better do Fitz right.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby The Top Crusader » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:07 pm

Hopefully they introduce The Whizzer this season.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Whitty Whit » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:18 pm

I'm really excited for this show! This is an amazing show with so much potential. I hope it's around for awhile. And that Fitz is okay.
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Shennifer » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:37 am

I think the season is off to a good start. The Skye and Ward scene was pretty perfect, in my opinion. Showing where they are both at now.

Coulson and everyone trying to rebuild the team.

Fitz hallucinating Jemma being there when she really isn't. (broke my heart)
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby The Top Crusader » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:26 am

I'm pretty far behind, finally watched the first episode of Season 2, though.

I was all excited Xena/Ron Swanson's wife was added to the cast but they killed her off already. :(
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Re: Agents of SHIELD

Postby Shennifer » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:26 pm

I'm liking season 2 a lot so far.

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