Horse Racing 2019
Horse Racing 2019
It's that time of year again!
Discuss developments in the new season of races here!
As usual I plan to live chat each of the jewel races and the finale in the main Chatroom channel #aio if anyone else is watching them and wants to come by. All are on NBC.
Kentucky Derby - May 4th Preakness Stakes - May 18th Belmont Stakes - June 8th Breeder's Cup - November 2nd
Previous years: 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, earlier
Discuss developments in the new season of races here!
As usual I plan to live chat each of the jewel races and the finale in the main Chatroom channel #aio if anyone else is watching them and wants to come by. All are on NBC.
Kentucky Derby - May 4th Preakness Stakes - May 18th Belmont Stakes - June 8th Breeder's Cup - November 2nd
Previous years: 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, earlier
Since I'll be on the chat anyway until 6 that day, I'll probably stick around for the Kentucky Derby as well. I will be cheering for Gray Magician based on the name alone.
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I don't watch any horse racing, but I turned on the hockey game tonight and heard that the Kentucky Derby was the reason for the delay in starting the Columbus/Boston game, so I guess it touched my life a bit.
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So I read something somewhere about how a horse was disqualified. Is that true? I didn't even know that could happen. I hope the rest of the races go well!
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Apparently it took 22 minutes of review time to decide on the DQ, which seems pretty crazy. If it takes that long to decide, it can't be that egregious of an issue, can it? That's how I feel about NHL reviews too. If it takes 5 minutes to decide if the play was offside, it can't be that offside!
First time it every happened at the Derby! It was a very strange situation and the tv broadcast didn't do a great job clearing it up because it sounded like the objection was about Country House (the eventual winner) being impeded by Maximum Security (the original winner) or else he would have won and the DQ was fixing that, but that wasn't what happened at all. Country House never claimed they were impeded, they simply posted the objection because there was impedance. There was never a question about whether they were directly affected by any of it and if it cost them the race, all that mattered was did Maximum Security impede anyone, and he unquestionably did, so he was disqualified and everyone moved up a place and Country House happened to win after that because he had finished in second. So he ends up being the beneficiary, but just because of how the repositioning worked out in the end, it wasn't directly related to the objection.Jehoshaphat wrote:So I read something somewhere about how a horse was disqualified. Is that true? I didn't even know that could happen.
It was the right decision. I definitely understand the outcry, Maximum Security was without doubt the best horse in the field and no one he impeded was challenging for the win, but that doesn't matter. What matters is he definitely did impede, and you can't do that. It's a significant safety hazard. Unfortunate circumstances, but that call has to be made even (actually, especially) on this biggest stage. Unpopular and disappointing outcome, but the correct outcome.
The big story that got lost in all the controversy is this ended up being a major upset result - Country House was the second longest shot to ever win the Derby!
Live reaction from the Chatroom of everything playing out:
It took so long because a DQ would be unprecedented in this race. The interference was clear, they just had to make sure of what the appropriate response was. It had huge implications either way they went with it.Catspaw wrote:Apparently it took 22 minutes of review time to decide on the DQ, which seems pretty crazy. If it takes that long to decide, it can't be that egregious of an issue, can it?
As mentioned above, the controversy came because Maximum Security was definitely the best horse in the race, and the horses he impeded weren't going to win whether that had happened or not. Also because the horse that ended up winning was barely involved in any of that at all, he just won because he got moved from second to first. But none of that matters, the only question was did he severely impede and without question he definitely did. Did it affect the ultimate outcome of the race, no it didn't, but that doesn't mean you let it go. Again, the tv did a poor job explaining what the situation actually was, causing misunderstandings that I think spurred a bigger uproar than there would have been if everyone understood what was really going on. This article has a good explanation of what the objection was actually about, who posted it and why, and why the decision was made the way it was.
So I did watch the derby, but then as soon as it was over I jumped in the shower so I missed /all/ the deliberation, but the Belmont's today, so don't forget to turn your TVs on, and let's hope it goes smoother
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The oddities continue at the Preakness! A jockey gets bucked off immediately out of the gate and the riderless horse continues around the track for the rest of the race! (And some time after.) The winner ends up being the horse that was at the center of the Derby DQ drama! What a crazy race season!
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