Depression

Fenix · Post by **Fenix** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:06 pm

We here that this past few years more and more kids have to be on anti depressents the cause we don't know is it right should they live life like they are suppose to with out the aid i mean people having been doing it for years..... i dunno maybe i need some to calm the pain the hurt the anxiety the saddess the depression i look at myself a mess

The Top Crusader · Post by **The Top Crusader** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:23 pm

Fenix wrote:We here that this past few years more and more kids have to be on anti depressents the cause we don't know is it right should they live life like they are suppose to with out the aid i mean people having been doing it for years..... i dunno maybe i need some to calm the pain the hurt the anxiety the saddess the depression i look at myself a mess

Hmmm, I dunno. I think stuff like anti-depressents can have a place (don't tell Tom Cruise

)... but I think that most things can be worked through otherwise... of course it's not something I REALLY know anything about.

But I used to be extremely, extremely depressed for probably... I don't know, years or so. And I prayed about it a lot and everything, and really wished things would get better. And it never really seemed like things did, but eventually... and I don't know if it was all of a sudden or a process... I realized that I didn't feel that way anymore...

Now I am pretty much laid back and easy going about more or less everything. I just don't worry, or care too much about anything. Err... not that I don't care about anything. But I mean in a way that would be depressing. But even though at times it didn't feel like it I am sure that praying and talking to God was a big, huge help, and now looking back I can see how my trials have made me a better person.

Eugene Blackgaard · Post by **Eugene Blackgaard** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:33 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you, what is most likley the most meaningful post Top has ever written.

I agree with Top. I honestly believe that Jesus is the answer, not anti-depressants. Cast all your cares upon him, and lay all of your burdens down at his feet.

Country Girl · Post by **Country Girl** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:38 pm

Top.. that WAS an awesome post... *wipes eyes* ... okay.. not THAT touching.. but yeah

And EB.. I agree

Me · Post by Me » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:59 pm

Yeah, as a general rule, I say forget the meds. They are an excuese. Not that I'd know from personal experience. All IMO. Wow. Disjointed post. I'm really tired.

Linne · Post by **Linne** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:53 am

About a year ago, I was so depressed I really didn't care about anything anymore, but I never thought about meds or anything. I just read my Bible and prayed a lot, and got through it that way. It actually helped me mature a lot, and now I'm grateful that I had to go through it. God says we'll go through those hard times, but He will always be there to bring us out.

Sonuna · Post by **Sonuna** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:21 am

Medication can be very useful in cases like this, but first priority should be on God and prayer...

mr. mellow · Post by **mr. mellow** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:01 pm

I can get depressed for maybe like a night but then things ussaly work out the next morning.

Baragon · Post by **Baragon** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:31 pm

Not all medications are just excuses. There are some people who truly need to take medications daily to handle certain mental health\health issues, and unfortunately, some people just don't take what they need to get better.

Eugene Blackgaard · Post by **Eugene Blackgaard** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:56 pm

Continental Admiral wrote:Not all medications are just excuses. There are some people who truly need to take medications daily to handle certain mental health\health issues, and unfortunately, some people just don't take what they need to get better.

True, I agree in full. Another side of the coin is, some people get sad because maybe they're going through a hard time, and assume they need meds when they don't. And I'm in no way referring to you, Fenix, I don't know your situation. But It's just another side to things.

pianokitty · Post by **pianokitty** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:06 pm

i had a friend that at one point had really bad depression [before i met her..so i dont know much bout this..] and it got so bad that the doctors said she should take anti-deppresants. her mom and her agreed that that just wasnt the answer and they worked on it together as a family..and it worked out and she is one of the most confident and cheerful people i know. shes awesome.

Me · Post by Me » Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:50 am

Eugene Blackgaard wrote:Another side of the coin is, some people get sad because maybe they're going through a hard time, and assume they need meds when they don't.

That's what I meant to say.

Rachael Blackgaard · Post by **Rachael Blackgaard** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:38 pm

I think God can sometimes work through doctors and medicine, but not all the time. I know what it's like to be depressed, but for me it's always been a season. IMO, chronic depression is an illness. Like any illness, God may choose to heal that person instantly and miraculously, or He may use doctors. It's up to us to pray and ask God what He wants us to do.

JesusFreak777 · Post by **JesusFreak777** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:23 pm

Ah depression...something I know pretty well both from personal experience. For me I headed in partly because I hit a valley in my relationship with God..neither of us moved, but the emotional high was no longer there. I couldn't feel his presence any more. However, I stuck with it and God was faithful. Through counciling and prayer and a lot of time in God's Word, I am slowly coming up.
I do not believe that anti depressants are bad. However, they are not for everyone, nor do they cure anything. They simply "make the large bumps a little smoother" to quote my dad.

gimp80995 · Post by **gimp80995** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:03 am

I think the meds have their place, but my main worry when I see people start taking anti-depressants is that they'll feel better on the meds, and not want to stop the meds for fear that they'll get depressed again. Then the meds that are suppose to be helpful turn into an addiction just the same as street drugs.

Peace Out

-Gimp

gimp80995 · Post by **gimp80995** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:51 pm

gimp80995 wrote:I think the meds have their place, but my main worry when I see people start taking anti-depressants is that they'll feel better on the meds, and not want to stop the meds for fear that they'll get depressed again. Then the meds that are suppose to be helpful turn into an addiction just the same as street drugs.

Peace Out

-Gimp

First: Excuse the double post, but it has been 7 months.....

Second: *is in shock that she wrote an entire post without the "......" trademark she's developed over the years.

Third: We've discussed meds and what not, but how do you guys feel about counseling? Is it just a waste of money to talk to a therapist about stuff when you could write it in a journal, talk to a close friend, or pray about it?

IMO, counseling can be beneficial. You have a set time to talk to a person who isn't going to get preocupied with other things on their agenda. That one hour a week is YOUR time to talk about anything you want to talk about. However, many counselors cost $60 or more per hour. I know many people who probably need counseling don't have insurance and most definately don't have $60 a week to pay for counseling.

This is something my dad and I disagree on. He strongly believes counseling is the only way (or at least the best way) to work through problems in a person's life. I feel that if the person has the time and insurance (or cash), then fine. But if they don't have the time (ie, they'll miss work), or don't have insurance or enough cash to pay for it, then it's doubtful that breaking their budget so that they can affoard counseling is going to be helpful, it'll just give them more to need counseling for.

And while insurance may be cheap, many still don't have it. I personally don't have health insurance simply because I'd pay more to have the health insurance than I do to just pay cash in the rare times I need to go to the hospital or doctor for something (I average seeing a doctor / hospital one to three times a year, usually the bill is in the area of $200 to $300 for each visit).

Anyway, what are your thoughts?

Peace Out

-Gimp

Rachael Blackgaard · Post by **Rachael Blackgaard** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:45 pm

I don't know... I remember that counseling was very helpful to me during some rough times I had as far as feeling guilty and apprehensive went, but now that my problem is more physical than emotional, I don't think it would help me much. Sometimes a good, mature, Christian friends is all you really need, and other times it's better to see a counselor. Some pastors counsel for free, so that's an option in some churches.

ajamj · Post by **ajamj** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:19 pm

First, to go back to the older part of the thread, it has been my experience that a lot of people (doctors, teachers) think that meds are the first and best answer to problems.
I do not believe this is so. Some people need meds, some for a short time, some forever. There are a lot of biases about mental health issues. There are the people who think it is an excuse, that you should “just get over it”, etc. Then there are others who want to throw medication and counseling at everything. Each person and situation is different. Prayer and careful consideration are needed to determine what is right in a particular case. If someone needs meds there should be no shame in taking something for an illness. Just my 2 cents.

xiao · Post by **xiao** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:27 pm

First rely on prayer. Medication is helpful; yes, but not nearly as helpful as prayer. Trust me on this. I used to have depression and I still have it a little bit. Prayer takes care of it. I've never used medication.

kellyj · Post by **kellyj** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:03 pm

There is this lady I know that is a very good family friend of ours. She's been suffering from derpression for about 6 years. It started after a miscarriage. She's been a Christian all her life, and her husband is a teacher at a Christian Secondary School. Although she had lots of Christian infulence it was decided to put her on medication. Which has really helpt her deal with the stress of having 2 young kids at home and medical probelms. I think that while prayer is a very powerful too in some cases I think that medication can be a GREAT HELP.

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